iamshack Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why is that wow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 So Boston has gotten Cespedes and Craig in their lineup now. With Ortiz. And Napoli. And Pedroia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Lackey and Masterson? The Cards are getting serious. A's with Samardjzia, Hammel, and now Lester. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) So Boston has gotten Cespedes and Craig in their lineup now. With Ortiz. And Napoli. And Pedroia. Craig has really struggled to hit for any power at all for the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think both major trades today make sense for both sides and we'll need time to figure out who won. Buying low on Craig makes a lot of sense and I think Kelly could be a back-end starter for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:45 AM) I don't think they are the same markets. It's like people shopping for a Rolls vs. people shopping for a Chevy. Danks will be able to be moved after today, if that is what it comes down to. I think the speculation about teams' interest in him probably had to do with a little BS and a lot of having the White Sox eat enough money it doesn't make sense to trade him. I see what you're saying and they are definitely in different markets. I'm thinking more in terms of teams preferences and/or priorities. As guys like Lackey ( done deal) and Price are moved then the focus could shift to Danks rather quickly. Also agree on the bs part. Both the Sox and sports writers could be doing there PR to shake the tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Jeff Passan: Yankees looking for incremental upgrades, not big pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Jeff Passan: Yankees looking for incremental upgrades, not big pieces. John Danks is the poster child for "incremental upgrade, not a big piece." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:54 AM) Jeff Passan: Yankees looking for incremental upgrades, not big pieces. Danks is not a big piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Craig and Viciedo have identical OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:54 AM) Jeff Passan: Yankees looking for incremental upgrades, not big pieces. John Danks is the definition of an incremental upgrade, come on down New York! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) John Danks is the poster child for "incremental upgrade, not a big piece." Add Tank to that mix as well. Come on Yanks, wtf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) Craig and Viciedo have identical OPS. Except Allen Craig was a .300+ hitter for two full seasons before this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Rock? Anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The Sox have to scratch Danks, don't they, if they have any interest in making a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:56 AM) Except Allen Craig was a .300+ hitter for two full seasons before this year. Was being the key word. Certainly his acquistion shouldn't be heralded as wow, when the price was a pretty good pitcher. Edited July 31, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 10:58 AM) The Sox have to scratch Danks, don't they, if they have any interest in making a deal. if they do, who pitches? bullpen day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 And Viciedo was a 25/75 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) The Sox have to scratch Danks, don't they, if they have any interest in making a deal. Not this close to game time. He's been warming up for a while now so all signs point to Danks starting this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) And Viciedo was a 25/75 hitter. Viciedo's also 25, while Craig is 30. Overall, they should really have similar value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 3 hours. Hope Danks pitches well, even though I think he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) I am still incredibly interested in why the Sox were scouting the BoSox system. Could Boston be interested in Tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) Was being the key word. Certainly his acquistion shouldn't be heralded as wow, when the price was a pretty good pitcher. That's not the point. If you have a track record of doing something over 1200 PA, sucking in 400 PA doesn't mean you're now terrible. Especially when Craig's only 30. He's not 35. Viciedo's never had sustained success at the big league level. His best season featured a 99 wRC+. That's the definition of mediocre at best. Edited July 31, 2014 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) I am still incredibly interested in why the Sox were scouting the BoSox system. Seeing as they just added 2 OFers I'd say they were in talks for Viceido...As it was reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) The Sox have to scratch Danks, don't they, if they have any interest in making a deal. I think if he starts, they are more than certain no one is paying their price today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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