Actual Baseball Trade Rumors From Legitimate Non-Imaginary Sources

[BlackSox13]

Reds are fading, already committed big coin to Bailey, put Cueto on the block, could happen. Would love to buy out his option with a big extension on a prearranged deal. Don't know if what we've got would be of any interest.

 

Yeah, no way.

I can't imagine what the Reds would ask for Cueto. Astronomical I'm sure.

[GGajewski18]

Well looks that Jon Lester is going to get traded. Got scratched for tomorrows start. Question is, who gets him and who then comes to Danks?

[Jake]

Dunn can hit. All Beckham can do is turn double plays. He doesn't he do other defensive things well.

 

The one thing that Beckham has over the likes of Barney is the fact that he is actually more talented. Some teams might perceive some value in just rolling the dice. The problem is that Hahn can't look someone in the eye and say we aren't going to no-tender him. Everyone would like to roll the dice with Gordo, but why pay for it when you can wait until he's released?

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 5m

Hasn't been much chatter about #WhiteSox leading up to deadline. Not many scouts here. One said: "It feels like I'm the only one here."

 

 

 

maybe MLB scouts avoid Detroit like the rest of civilized humanity does.

[GreenSox]

With Sale, Quintana, and presumably Rodon, Sox don't need to invest resources an another Ace level starter. What the Sox need is pitching depth. The gains from that aren't as great as the gains we would get from a couple of 3/4s, a LF who can hit. Or a 2b.

Edited July 30, 2014 by GreenSox

[LDF]

With Sale, Quintana, and presumably Rodon, Sox don't need to invest resources an another Ace level starter. What the Sox need is pitching depth. The gains from that aren't as great as the gains we would get from a couple of 3/4s, a LF who can hit. Or a 2b.

 

if we make a trade fine, if not we can add the final pieces thru FA's.

 

with Dank in the lineup, and again no off season trades, I still think the sox need a very good sp. while there

is high hopes for Rodon, I am not going to put all my eggs in the basket so to speak, as we did last off season.

 

a catcher is needed, dh and rp are needed. a few pickups will get the sox into the playoff. look at this yr,

this is a rebuilding yr and yet the sox came close and the season is still not over.

Edited July 30, 2014 by LDF

[GreatScott82]

One thing to keep an eye on tomorrow morning is if Danks is pulled from his scheduled start. The game is at 1:05. FWIW.

[GreatScott82]

if we make a trade fine, if not we can add the final pieces thru FA's.

 

with Dank in the lineup, and again no off season trades, I still think a very good sp. while there is high hopes

for Rodon, I am not going to put all my eggs in the basket so to speak, as we did last off season.

 

a catcher is needed, dh and rp are needed. a few pickups will get the sox into the playoff. look at this yr,

this is a rebuilding yr and yet the sox came close and the season is still not over.

One thing I worry about with us winning lately is that first round pick next year. I'm pretty sure the top 10 first round picks are protected, anything beyond that and the Sox will lose their first round pick next year if they sign a type-A Free Agent. As much as I want us to sign Shields, I would hate to sacrifice such a high pick.

 

As of right now the Sox are the 11th pick. Not that I support losing in any way, but the Sox can truly benefit from being in that bottom 10. Another first round pick AND some decent FA signings and we will be in much better shape next season.

[Dunt]

One thing I worry about with us winning lately is that first round pick next year. I'm pretty sure the top 10 first round picks are protected, anything beyond that and the Sox will lose their first round pick next year if they sign a type-A Free Agent. As much as I want us to sign Shields, I would hate to sacrifice such a high pick.

 

As of right now the Sox are the 11th pick. Not that I support losing in any way, but the Sox can truly benefit from being in that bottom 10. Another first round pick AND some decent FA signings and we will be in much better shape next season.

 

Top 11 picks are safe this year bc the Astros didn't sign Aiken

[Chicago White Sox]

Top 11 picks are safe this year bc the Astros didn't sign Aiken

Don't think that is true, pretty sure it's still only the top 10, which means the team with the 10th worst record could lose their pick.

[DirtySox]

As of right now the Sox are the 11th pick. Not that I support losing in any way, but the Sox can truly benefit from being in that bottom 10. Another first round pick AND some decent FA signings and we will be in much better shape next season.

 

I absolutely support losing in this situation.

[caulfield12]

With Sale, Quintana, and presumably Rodon, Sox don't need to invest resources an another Ace level starter. What the Sox need is pitching depth. The gains from that aren't as great as the gains we would get from a couple of 3/4s, a LF who can hit. Or a 2b.

 

Tyler Flowers and AJ Pierzynski are 24th and 25th (next to last and last) in OPS for catchers with 225 or more PA's.

[caulfield12]

With Sale, Quintana, and presumably Rodon, Sox don't need to invest resources an another Ace level starter. What the Sox need is pitching depth. The gains from that aren't as great as the gains we would get from a couple of 3/4s, a LF who can hit. Or a 2b.

 

Tyler Flowers and AJ Pierzynski are 24th and 25th (next to last and last) in OPS for catchers with 225 or more PA's.

[caulfield12]

1) Relievers are fungible

 

Who were the five best non-closer relievers in baseball last season? About about in 2012? And in 2011?

 

The list in 2013, judged by ERA+ is Neil Cotts, Luis Avilan, Alex Torres, Craig Breslow and Tanner Scheppers. In 2012, it was Scott Atchison, Eric O'Flaherty, Darren Oliver, Robbie Ross and Jake McGee. In 2011, it was David Robertson, O'Flaherty, Scott Downs, Mike Adams and Greg Holland.

 

One name duplicated on the lists, which looked at relievers who did not have a start, threw at least 50 innings with an ERA+ of 150 or better and less than 10 saves. In 2014, none of the players from 2012 fit that criteria, much less make the top five. That's despite lowering the inning cap to 30 for the current season, too.

 

The point is that relievers are fungible. They rarely sustain success from year to year. Remember when Mike Adams was a setup man extraordinaire? Outside of San Diego, he's proven just as unreliable as any other non-closer.

 

Closers, too, will often be unreliable, which is why so many teams look to bolster their bullpen as they try to contend. Who would have thought two years ago that Koji Uehara would become unhittable or that Zach Britton would turn into a great closer for the Orioles?

 

But, that success rarely lasts. With someone like Houston's Tony Sipp, what are the chances that he's able to remain this good for multiple seasons? What are the chances he pitches like he did in 2013 with Arizona or his 2010 or 2012 seasons in Cleveland?

 

If teams are lucky, they nab one reliable closer for a two-year stretch. That's what Houston did with Chad Qualls and why they're likely to keep him around next year, too. But, counting on multiple guys performing that well? It's asking for trouble.

 

Houston's not going to just give Sipp away. After all, he's cheap and under team control past this season. But, if a contender needs a lefty and is willing to give up talent for him? They make that move 10 times out of 10.

 

www.crawfishboxes.com

 

 

 

You likely won’t find a reliever cracking the top 10, but closers David Robertson, Francisco Rodriguez, Casey Janssen and Rafael Soriano have been excellent, while Luke Gregerson and Andrew Miller have been lights out in a setup capacity.

 

www.mlbtraderumors.com (Tim Dierkes power ratings for FA's)

Edited July 30, 2014 by caulfield12

[ILMOU]

I absolutely support losing in this situation.

I read that there was a ruling that it will now be the first 11 picks that are protected in next year's draft due to the Astros' carryover. But still need to finish with one of 10 worst records.

[The Ultimate Champion]

I absolutely support losing in this situation.

Me too.

 

High draft pick + high waiver claim/Rule-5 order and the ability to sign a comp free agent while giving up only a 2nd round pick (welcome back to the 2014-15 *version of the Ervin Santana talk - although now I would HOPE posters here still aren't naive enough to assume we have a full rotation/don't need RHSP help).

 

*edited: not saying we want Ervin this time around (contract demands are???) but we'll be back to that roundabout discussion of which is better, proven MLB player or 2nd round pick - and my answer will be proven MLBSP once again.

Edited July 30, 2014 by The Ultimate Champion

[The Ultimate Champion]

2015 rotation ideally for me:

 

1) Danks is traded

2) Sale-RHSP we mostly pay for w/ Danks money-Quintana-Noesi-Rodon with at least one good looking young RHSP from outside the org in the bullpen if/when someone gets hurt or falters. 2 would be better along with Beck in AAA as further insurance.

[caulfield12]

Being inside the protected picks isn't going to matter that much, because we're not going after Lester, Scherzer or Shields. Same thing with Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez.

 

Who else would we be interested in that's going to get a QO?

 

Russell Martin, I guess. But 15 teams will be after a catcher.

 

 

Yasmani Thomas and Rusney Castillo wouldn't be affected by being in the protected 10 picks. Same with the Japanese starting pitcher (although I think after what happened with Tanaka they would steer clear).

 

Nelson Cruz should be on our target list...but for nothing more than a 2 year contract with an option for a third year. Victor Martinez...maybe? But probably going back to the Tigers in all likelihood.

 

Seems we'll be picking through the bargain/flawed/damaged goods bin, looking at guys like Masterson, Colby Rasmus, Michael Morse, etc.

Edited July 30, 2014 by caulfield12

[LDF]

One thing I worry about with us winning lately is that first round pick next year. I'm pretty sure the top 10 first round picks are protected, anything beyond that and the Sox will lose their first round pick next year if they sign a type-A Free Agent. As much as I want us to sign Shields, I would hate to sacrifice such a high pick.

 

As of right now the Sox are the 11th pick. Not that I support losing in any way, but the Sox can truly benefit from being in that bottom 10. Another first round pick AND some decent FA signings and we will be in much better shape next season.

 

it is 10 now being protected, I always thought it was 15? also, how does the QO comes into effect if the

team doesn't offer it?

[LDF]

1) Relievers are fungible

 

Who were the five best non-closer relievers in baseball last season? About about in 2012? And in 2011?

 

The list in 2013, judged by ERA+ is Neil Cotts, Luis Avilan, Alex Torres, Craig Breslow and Tanner Scheppers. In 2012, it was Scott Atchison, Eric O'Flaherty, Darren Oliver, Robbie Ross and Jake McGee. In 2011, it was David Robertson, O'Flaherty, Scott Downs, Mike Adams and Greg Holland.

 

One name duplicated on the lists, which looked at relievers who did not have a start, threw at least 50 innings with an ERA+ of 150 or better and less than 10 saves. In 2014, none of the players from 2012 fit that criteria, much less make the top five. That's despite lowering the inning cap to 30 for the current season, too.

 

The point is that relievers are fungible. They rarely sustain success from year to year. Remember when Mike Adams was a setup man extraordinaire? Outside of San Diego, he's proven just as unreliable as any other non-closer.

 

Closers, too, will often be unreliable, which is why so many teams look to bolster their bullpen as they try to contend. Who would have thought two years ago that Koji Uehara would become unhittable or that Zach Britton would turn into a great closer for the Orioles?

 

But, that success rarely lasts. With someone like Houston's Tony Sipp, what are the chances that he's able to remain this good for multiple seasons? What are the chances he pitches like he did in 2013 with Arizona or his 2010 or 2012 seasons in Cleveland?

 

If teams are lucky, they nab one reliable closer for a two-year stretch. That's what Houston did with Chad Qualls and why they're likely to keep him around next year, too. But, counting on multiple guys performing that well? It's asking for trouble.

 

Houston's not going to just give Sipp away. After all, he's cheap and under team control past this season. But, if a contender needs a lefty and is willing to give up talent for him? They make that move 10 times out of 10.

 

www.crawfishboxes.com

 

 

 

You likely won’t find a reliever cracking the top 10, but closers David Robertson, Francisco Rodriguez, Casey Janssen and Rafael Soriano have been excellent, while Luke Gregerson and Andrew Miller have been lights out in a setup capacity.

 

www.mlbtraderumors.com (Tim Dierkes power ratings for FA's)

 

thanks for the article, man I wish I could write like that or even have the command of

the king's language like that

 

[witesoxfan]

it is 10 now being protected, I always thought it was 15? also, how does the QO comes into effect if the

team doesn't offer it?

 

It will be 11 due to the Astros incompetence. It is normally the top 10 that are protected. If a team does not make a qualifying offer, the free agent is not subject to a first round pick.

[ChiSoxJon]

Being inside the protected picks isn't going to matter that much, because we're not going after Lester, Scherzer or Shields. Same thing with Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez.

 

Who else would we be interested in that's going to get a QO?

 

Russell Martin, I guess. But 15 teams will be after a catcher.

 

 

Yasmani Thomas and Rusney Castillo wouldn't be affected by being in the protected 10 picks. Same with the Japanese starting pitcher (although I think after what happened with Tanaka they would steer clear).

 

Nelson Cruz should be on our target list...but for nothing more than a 2 year contract with an option for a third year. Victor Martinez...maybe? But probably going back to the Tigers in all likelihood.

 

Seems we'll be picking through the bargain/flawed/damaged goods bin, looking at guys like Masterson, Colby Rasmus, Michael Morse, etc.

That sounds more like the typical ChiSox pick-up, wouldn't mind Masterson at all, imagine if he fixes himself with Sale, Quintana, and Roon? Rasmus? we're fine in the OF and same with Morse but I'd like to add some relievers and catching depth, aside from that let the youth movement continue...and get our 1st rounder, more International spneding money, and no loss of 1st round pick...lotta positives and it continues when we deal Danks and Dunn and De Aza

[LDF]

I absolutely support losing in this situation.

 

for me, I am split on this. on 1 hand I am saying play your best every time out. on the other

hand, yeah that high pick does entice me.

 

several months ago, if anyone would have said that the sox can be contending for the WC,

I would have laugh in disbelieve.

Edited July 30, 2014 by LDF

[LDF]

It will be 11 due to the Astros incompetence. It is normally the top 10 that are protected. If a team does not make a qualifying offer, the free agent is not subject to a first round pick.

 

many thanks.

[LDF]

Being inside the protected picks isn't going to matter that much, because we're not going after Lester, Scherzer or Shields. Same thing with Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez.

 

Who else would we be interested in that's going to get a QO?

 

Russell Martin, I guess. But 15 teams will be after a catcher.

 

 

Yasmani Thomas and Rusney Castillo wouldn't be affected by being in the protected 10 picks. Same with the Japanese starting pitcher

(although I think after what happened with Tanaka they would steer clear).

 

Nelson Cruz should be on our target list...but for nothing more than a 2 year contract with an option for a third year. Victor Martinez...maybe? But probably going back to the Tigers in all likelihood.

 

Seems we'll be picking through the bargain/flawed/damaged goods bin, looking at guys like Masterson, Colby Rasmus, Michael Morse, etc.

 

what is going to be interesting is teams that may give their fa's a QO. I will write about this more as the season goes or

in the offseason.

 

with ref to the 2 Cubans and Japanese, I say sign Thomas and the Asian guy. I don't care about the injury

to Tanaka, he was lights out before the injury.