Browsers - I hate them all

[kitekrazy]

I started to use Chrome for some things but since I use it more regularly, I get the occasional malware.

 

I had a strange oddity on one system with Firefox. When I use yahoo mail in the browser, I click the message and it closes and takes me back to the beginning of my emails.

 

I don't use Internet Destroyer because you get the MS pop up to disable things. The MS pop up would be the first thing to I'd disable.

 

Chrome is so featureless. You can't use it to email links without some add on to download. I hated when they removed google discussion from the search engine.

 

The Mozilla stuff is great when it works but I've had some issues even with Thunderbird where I have to close it and open it again to delete emails.

 

I thought about switching to Opera. Does anyone use this?

Edited July 29, 2014 by kitekrazy

[Buehrle>Wood]

I love chrome.

[Jake]

I've tried several times to switch over to Chrome, but it just doesn't work well for me. Particularly because I'm a person who likes to use a lot of tabs at once - across multiple machines, my experience is that Firefox handles heavy use better than Chrome. Chrome uses less memory with a lighter load, though, so that's something to think about.

 

What has led me to try to work with Chrome a few times is that I use Google Hangouts and its extension basically makes it a desktop app. Likewise, there are several useful Chrome desktop apps. There are a couple extensions, like Pocket, that don't work well for me on Firefox but do on Chrome. I never can make the switch, though, because Chrome just runs slower on my machine and doesn't offer the same kind of tab management features and overall add-on library that I'm looking for.

 

I'm also always keen to not just give Google carte blanche access to my web browsing habits, though I have configured Chrome to prevent that (includes not using Google Search, obviously). Keeping FF alive and well in an of itself is a nice motivating factor if you're not sure.

 

If you're looking for other alternatives, I don't mind Opera at all and it's easily my second place choice. It's speedy, fluid, and configurable. It now supports Chrome extensions, too (but not apps, and not the Hangouts extension). While it is not for everyone, you can take a look at Maxthon Browser as well. I used it for a while and it's not bad at all. Very quick, low memory, and inexplicably has as good of compatibility with different web elements as any mainstream browser.

[justBLAZE]

I'm a FireFox guy and use WaterFox at home.

[Steve9347]

I love chrome.

 

[LDF]

I love chrome.

 

chrome appears to have change, now they are a portal for redirectors and spyware programs.

constantly check your add / remove programs and remove programs that appeared on your

computer. run your scans before you shut down. remove any extra toolbars.

 

firefox is the best.

[cabiness42]

I have been a Firefox guy for several years now. It's not perfect but it has served me well. The head of IT where I work uses SeaMonkey, which is also a Mozilla product, and swears that it is even better than Firefox. I haven't gotten around to trying it out myself yet.

[Y2HH]

I've tried several times to switch over to Chrome, but it just doesn't work well for me. Particularly because I'm a person who likes to use a lot of tabs at once - across multiple machines, my experience is that Firefox handles heavy use better than Chrome. Chrome uses less memory with a lighter load, though, so that's something to think about.

 

I'm also always keen to not just give Google carte blanche access to my web browsing habits, though I have configured Chrome to prevent that (includes not using Google Search, obviously). Keeping FF alive and well in an of itself is a nice motivating factor if you're not sure.

 

If you're looking for other alternatives, I don't mind Opera at all and it's easily my second place choice. It's speedy, fluid, and configurable. It now supports Chrome extensions, too (but not apps, and not the Hangouts extension). While it is not for everyone, you can take a look at Maxthon Browser as well. I used it for a while and it's not bad at all. Very quick, low memory, and inexplicably has as good of compatibility with different web elements as any mainstream browser.

 

A few things...

 

Firefox actually uses less memory than Chrome does, it just appears to use more because it lumps all of it's memory usage into one process. If you add up all the processes of Chrome, with the same websites open and the same extensions running (if any), you'll see Chrome uses slightly more memory in both cases (with or without extensions), however, it's advantageous to split the processes and sandbox them as Chrome does.

 

Opera is Chrome, so you may as well just use the real thing -- Opera dumped their own proprietary engine and started using Google's Blink engine, which is a fork of Webkit2, so ... essentially Opera offers nothing not in Chrome, since it's running on Chrome's codebase.

 

Out of the box, Chrome is the most secure browser there is, however, if you want to go through the hassle of using Firefox + NoScript, that would easily make FF the most secure.

 

I started to use Chrome for some things but since I use it more regularly, I get the occasional malware.

 

I thought about switching to Opera. Does anyone use this?

 

A few things for you, too...

 

If you are getting malware, it's not Chrome's fault, it's yours. Stop browsing untrustworthy websites. And if you refuse to do that, download Adblock Plus (and add in the Malware domains list), it will protect you from that issue. For Firefox users, use Adblock Edge.

 

As stated above Opera is Chrome, so there is no point in using it anymore.

[Y2HH]

chrome appears to have change, now they are a portal for redirectors and spyware programs.

constantly check your add / remove programs and remove programs that appeared on your

computer. run your scans before you shut down. remove any extra toolbars.

 

firefox is the best.

 

As I said to another user here, if you are getting malware, it is NOT Chrome's fault.

 

Chrome, out of the box is more secure than FF is, by far.

 

Stop browsing s***ty porn sites, and maybe that problem will go away.

[Buehrle>Wood]

I don't use any form of security and don't have any problems. Probably not smart but literally the only sites I visit on my desktop are cnn espn and soxtalk.

[Jake]

A few things...

 

Firefox actually uses less memory than Chrome does, it just appears to use more because it lumps all of it's memory usage into one process. If you add up all the processes of Chrome, with the same websites open and the same extensions running (if any), you'll see Chrome uses slightly more memory in both cases (with or without extensions), however, it's advantageous to split the processes and sandbox them as Chrome does.

 

Opera is Chrome, so you may as well just use the real thing -- Opera dumped their own proprietary engine and started using Google's Blink engine, which is a fork of Webkit2, so ... essentially Opera offers nothing not in Chrome, since it's running on Chrome's codebase.

 

Out of the box, Chrome is the most secure browser there is, however, if you want to go through the hassle of using Firefox + NoScript, that would easily make FF the most secure.

 

 

 

A few things for you, too...

 

If you are getting malware, it's not Chrome's fault, it's yours. Stop browsing untrustworthy websites. And if you refuse to do that, download Adblock Plus (and add in the Malware domains list), it will protect you from that issue. For Firefox users, use Adblock Edge.

 

As stated above Opera is Chrome, so there is no point in using it anymore.

 

I know about Chrome's sandboxing. What I was saying is that the base memory usage is lower in Chrome vs. Firefox because I've tested it. For instance, browsing with just one or two tabs open is consistently lower in memory usage. That said, I use lots and lots of tabs so Firefox works out for me due to lower memory usage and just better overall responsiveness.

 

What they're saying about malware is something that has been going on a lot with Chrome lately. Semi-popular extensions will get bought out by malware peddlers and start injecting ads. So it isn't sites or poor browsing habits that are getting these people in trouble, it's once trustworthy extensions. Things as seemingly harmless as an RSS feed subscribe button were turning into ad injection plugins.

 

[Y2HH]

I know about Chrome's sandboxing. What I was saying is that the base memory usage is lower in Chrome vs. Firefox because I've tested it. For instance, browsing with just one or two tabs open is consistently lower in memory usage. That said, I use lots and lots of tabs so Firefox works out for me due to lower memory usage and just better overall responsiveness.

 

What they're saying about malware is something that has been going on a lot with Chrome lately. Semi-popular extensions will get bought out by malware peddlers and start injecting ads. So it isn't sites or poor browsing habits that are getting these people in trouble, it's once trustworthy extensions. Things as seemingly harmless as an RSS feed subscribe button were turning into ad injection plugins.

 

I think Google closed their extensions store now and you can only install from Google's approved list because of this.

[LDF]

As I said to another user here, if you are getting malware, it is NOT Chrome's fault.

 

Chrome, out of the box is more secure than FF is, by far.

 

Stop browsing s***ty porn sites, and maybe that problem will go away.

 

I do not go to porn site and just stay within the sports sites.

 

chrome as of the last month or so, started to dl what I call the avg package, along with avg comes

search protect, pc opt, ask search, etc..... it auto d/l'ed them. saying chrome is more secure, I would

disagree. google is more secure not chrome.

 

in addition how can you say that I am browsing porn???? you know nothing of me or my web activity.

Edited July 29, 2014 by LDF

[Y2HH]

I do not go to porn site and just stay within the sports sites.

 

chrome as of the last month or so, started to dl what I call the avg package, along with avg comes

search protect, pc opt, ask search, etc..... it auto d/l'ed them. saying chrome is more secure, I would

disagree. google is more secure not chrome.

 

in addition how can you say that I am browsing porn???? you know nothing of me or my web activity.

 

Because porn sites are the most common spreaders of malware.

 

So I merely made an educated guess.

 

But as I said above, if you know its an extension doing this to you, how can you blame Chrome? Stop using the extension.

[LDF]

Because porn sites are the most common spreaders of malware.

 

So I merely made an educated guess.

 

But as I said above, if you know its an extension doing this to you, how can you blame Chrome? Stop using the extension.

 

also facebook gives off a lot of malware as does porker sites.

 

innocent browsing by some gets the malware esp during popups.

 

ref to your educated guess.... you are wrong.

[Y2HH]

also facebook gives off a lot of malware as does porker sites.

 

innocent browsing by some gets the malware esp during popups.

 

ref to your educated guess.... you are wrong.

 

Oh ok then...with all your training and all.

 

I'm probably the most qualified person on this board when it comes to this, so save it.

 

Now, to correct you, you do NOT get malware from Facebook UNLESS you click on external links. Stop being fooled by half naked girls with the tag line "you won't believe what this woman did with her bikini" pictures, and again, you won't get malware. You did NOT get malware simply by going to facebook.

 

You have all these extensions installed, yet you didn't install a popup blocker like Adblock, or hell, check the box in Chrome that DOESN'T ALLOW POPUPS.

 

Innocent browsing does NOT get people malware, whatever that even means. Browsing to untrustworthy sites does.

 

Stop browsing porn sites, as I said before...because I absolutely believe you do.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Y2HH

[LDF]

Oh ok then...with all your training and all.

 

I'm probably the most qualified person on this board when it comes to this, so save it.

 

Now, to correct you, you do NOT get malware from Facebook UNLESS you click on external links. Stop being fooled by half naked girls with the tag line "you won't believe what this woman did with her bikini" pictures, and again, you won't get malware. You did NOT get malware simply by going to facebook.

 

You have all these extensions installed, yet you didn't install a popup blocker like Adblock, or hell, check the box in Chrome that DOESN'T ALLOW POPUPS.

 

Innocent browsing does NOT get people malware. Browsing to untrustworthy sites does.

 

what make you think you are the only one trained????

 

again posters will always click the external links for innocent browsing, Last yr, the FBI warned the US of this

kind of browsing. MIT even shut down one of the European cells that is responsible for some of the malware.

 

so obviously they know nothing b/c YOU know better. give me a break you are stuck on yourself.

[Y2HH]

what make you think you are the only one trained????

 

again posters will always click the external links for innocent browsing, Last yr, the FBI warned the US of this

kind of browsing. MIT even shut down one of the European cells that is responsible for some of the malware.

 

so obviously they know nothing b/c YOU know better. give me a break you are stuck on yourself.

 

You're talking about drive by -- I know what it is...and the only thing that can allow drive by is the thing between the keyboard and the chair.

 

If you or anyone else gets malware by browsing websites, YOU or that person caused it themselves.

 

There will always be malware sites, but the good news is you DON'T have to browse to them. Ever.

[LDF]

You're talking about drive by -- I know what it is...and the only thing that can allow drive by is the thing between the keyboard and the chair.

 

If you or anyone else gets malware by browsing websites, YOU or that person caused it themselves.

 

There will always be malware sites, but the good news is you DON'T have to browse to them. Ever.

 

and what is the use of using the computer except for work. posters need entertainment.

[Y2HH]

and what is the use of using the computer except for work. posters need entertainment.

 

You're here on Soxtalk.com, this isn't work.

 

And you aren't getting Malware from here, either.

 

There are plenty of malware free websites out there that are very entertaining.

 

Besides, as I said earlier, if you're that worried about it and you use AdBlock or AdBlock+, download the malware domains list, it prevents access to any address listed as a malware site, and it's updated all the time. Another extensions you can use is called WOT (Web of Trust).

 

If you insist on browsing random sites for entertainment, I'd highly recommend using those...instead of blaming Chrome.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Y2HH

[LDF]

You're here on Soxtalk.com, this isn't work.

 

And you aren't getting Malware from here, either.

 

There are plenty of malware free websites out there that are very entertaining.

 

Besides, as I said earlier, if you're that worried about it and you use AdBlock or AdBlock+, download the malware domains list, it prevents access to any address listed as a malware site, and it's updated all the time. Another extensions you can use is called WOT (Web of Trust).

 

If you insist on browsing random sites for entertainment, I'd highly recommend using those...instead of blaming Chrome.

 

and this whole discussion was started for people who has or had problems with IE - Internet - browsing. most

users are not that knowledgeable. it is for other people to help them not to spout out on how good you or they are.

 

here is another tidbit, many computer people outside the US thinks of americans, regardless of sex, and race, as

being lazy. the reason is normal basic knowledge is there for them to learn and if not at least learned it from

sites /subsites like this.

 

again you are making a generalize statement that it is I who is having the problem.

 

BTW >>>>> this is my last post on this for the moment. I will be back this evening.

Edited July 29, 2014 by LDF

[southsider2k5]

Oh ok then...with all your training and all.

 

I'm probably the most qualified person on this board when it comes to this, so save it.

 

Now, to correct you, you do NOT get malware from Facebook UNLESS you click on external links. Stop being fooled by half naked girls with the tag line "you won't believe what this woman did with her bikini" pictures, and again, you won't get malware. You did NOT get malware simply by going to facebook.

 

You have all these extensions installed, yet you didn't install a popup blocker like Adblock, or hell, check the box in Chrome that DOESN'T ALLOW POPUPS.

 

Innocent browsing does NOT get people malware, whatever that even means. Browsing to untrustworthy sites does.

 

Stop browsing porn sites, as I said before...because I absolutely believe you do.

 

SO WHAT DID SHE DO????

[Y2HH]

SO WHAT DID SHE DO????

 

All you have to do to find out is click the link!

[Jake]

The safeguard that Google put into place is they alert you if an extension asks for new permissions. The malware extensions came from the Chrome app store. It's a tough situation because they don't vet extensions like Mozilla does (Mozilla's system has its own drawbacks, most notably slower updates).

[chw42]

I haven't dealt with malware in years...

 

In the end, it's really about what you click on.