LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Well, considering we've always wanted to avoid paying relievers in arbitration since the Jenks years...and we're not even sure if he is going to be capable of being a high-quality 7th and 8th inning set-up guy in 2016, I'd say it's an interesting decision. Since the White Sox have adopted the philosophy that they can turn someone else's junk (Guerra, Noesi, Carroll, Belisario, Putnam, Cleto, Boggs, H.Rodriguez) into a bullpen piece, I'd say it's 50/50 at best they keep him. If he was left-handed and this was Matt Thornton after his first couple of seasons with the Sox, there would be no question about it. Otoh, Nate came up with the White Sox through our system, so there's going to be more of a likelihood to be "loyal." That said, baseball is a business and it's not only a UCL, it's the back issue, which we don't know a whole lot about. Can we be 100% sure his mechanics weren't/aren't going to be thrown off in the future compensating for back issues and putting undue stress on another part of the body. That's basically what happened with the Marlins' young ace, unfortunately. Zero career saves, 3.55 ERA in two seasons plus five total batters in 2014, gonna miss most of 2015. I've never been in an arbitration meeting, but I can't imagine his asking price being too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 11:16 PM) Not only that, but this has "good Samaritan" Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it.....you know JR probably feels horrible for the kid and will do anything he can do to accommodate him. BINGO ..... that is JR and how people completely misjudge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Just brutal. Hope he comes back stronger than ever. Not too many people in the game has that kind of arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 06:16 PM) Not only that, but this has "good Samaritan" Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it.....you know JR probably feels horrible for the kid and will do anything he can do to accommodate him. Not to mention that since he was hurt under contract it will be workers comp until he returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:38 PM) The glute bone is connected to the, elbow ligament Going to have to go back to the cadavers and figure this one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 08:41 PM) Going to have to go back to the cadavers and figure this one out. I don't know how it works with this injury. Was this tear inevitable and possibly prolonged by the down time or is it more of a random occurence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 09:05 PM) I don't know how it works with this injury. Was this tear inevitable and possibly prolonged by the down time or is it more of a random occurence? The ligament tear is not inevitable. He may have been throwing too hard too soon to try to rush back or it could be just the random injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Over compensating with the arm to make up for a weak back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 09:37 PM) Over compensating with the arm to make up for a weak back? Always possible. Pitchers with back problems tend to shorten the trunk flexion during the follow through and that could effect anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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