Soxfest Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 My heart goes out to the Bonds family on the loss of Mr.Bonds , but the media ESPN in particular acts like Barry is the only baseball or human being on earth who has ever lost a parent or loved one. Most people cannot get a week off before and after the loss of a parent or upon return take a day off, most people are lucky to get 3 days at best. Every night on Sportscenter it is the lead or 2nd story on the show about Barry's plight is beyond overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 If you are a superstar athlete, you are going to get this amount of attention, whether it's right or wrong. I've basically learned to accept this and realize that's how society works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Bonds is an unbelievable player and his dad was really good. He's gonna get the attention. I just think it suks that he starts getting a really big increased attention because his father was on his death bed and then eventually died. I mean there really wasn't much about 70 (in comparison to Sosa/BigMac). I know there is that whole attitude thing, but it seems like Barry is getting 100 times the respect during this whole sad incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 2, 2003 Author Share Posted September 2, 2003 If you are a superstar athlete, you are going to get this amount of attention, whether it's right or wrong. I've basically learned to accept this and realize that's how society works. I have never seen it to this extent EVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I agree tho. ESPN goes overboard. They probably brokedown everything. I've quit watching Sportscenter. It has stoped being sports and sports info to become a boring show and all they do is cover the teams they drool over. Yanks, Lakers, Cowboys.. etc etc. They've even stoped showing many highligts and they only show scores just to show Bonds, Favre, Kobe, Shaq. They make big deals about every dumb little comment these guys made.. Pathetic in my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Part of this is Bonds is finally acting like a human instead of a stuck up asshole. The media figures grab it while its there since he'll go back to his brooding ways in no time. It is so hard to play baseball after losing your father, working an actual job would be so much easier. In a hospital bed from exhaustion. A hospital bed!? How many of us check into a hospital because of exhaustion? The best I get is honey you take the kids, I need a nap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 And then the guy comes back and gets the game winning hit, after being in the hospital earlier that day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 And then the guy comes back and gets the game winning hit, after being in the hospital earlier that day! Wasn't it the previous day...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I pointed this out last week. Frank Thomas went through the same thingon a personal level but there was no media coverage. I believe the media attention is just ESPN trying to take a different angle on sports. Highlights and updates are no longer the main objective. They are beginning to try and advertise sports as a docudrama, as reality television instead of objective sports reporting. Kobe, Barry, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I really don't mean to sound like an asshole here.... but this is what he's used to. This is the way he's lived his entire life. And exhaustion is not just needing a nap. He could have been dizzy and passed put. Been dehydrated. Any number of things that I would get checked out too. The point is that they don't know any other way to do things. I'll never understand why this guy get's slack over every single thing he does - and please don't bother to tell me. So obsessed that he get's a half hour dedicated to him on SC, BB Tonight, and lookie.. his very own thread here on Sox Talk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I have never seen it to this extent EVER how old are you? I ask that, not to be snippy or mean, but as a point of reference to evaluate how much you have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I pointed this out last week. Frank Thomas went through the same thingon a personal level but there was no media coverage. I believe the media attention is just ESPN trying to take a different angle on sports. Highlights and updates are no longer the main objective. They are beginning to try and advertise sports as a docudrama, as reality television instead of objective sports reporting. Kobe, Barry, etc. NO media coverage... ?? Franks divorce was plastered all over the TV. Blamed for his bad performance, attitude, etc, etc.. His ex did interviews for Pete's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 NO media coverage... ?? Franks divorce was plastered all over the TV. Blamed for his bad performance, attitude, etc, etc.. His ex did interviews for Pete's sake. I was speaking of his fathers death and the national media attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 NO media coverage... ?? Franks divorce was plastered all over the TV. Blamed for his bad performance, attitude, etc, etc.. His ex did interviews for Pete's sake. I was speaking of his fathers death and the national media attention. Sorry BF... I misunderstood. I think Barry is getting more attention due to who his father was. They are doing a lot of "Remembering Bobby" stuff while talking about Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 I pointed this out last week. Frank Thomas went through the same thingon a personal level but there was no media coverage. I believe the media attention is just ESPN trying to take a different angle on sports. Highlights and updates are no longer the main objective. They are beginning to try and advertise sports as a docudrama, as reality television instead of objective sports reporting. Kobe, Barry, etc. that has been going on forever, or at least, 31 years when ABC began to do "up close and personal" things on Olympics athletes rather than actually show the Olympic competition itself - been going on for a long, long time and with 24 hour sports and news networks, ESPN began in what, the mid 70s, or 80 or 81 at the very latest. what else do they have to fill airtime with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 ESPN is looking at MTV as its business model. Soon programming like PlayMakers and whatever their calling the Notre Dame series will be the norm with maybe only an hour or three of Sportscenter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 that has been going on forever, or at least, 31 years when ABC began to do "up close and personal" things on Olympics athletes rather than actually show the Olympic competition itself - been going on for a long, long time and with 24 hour sports and news networks, ESPN began in what, the mid 70s, or 80 or 81 at the very latest. what else do they have to fill airtime with? Jim McKay and the Up Close and Personal segments are/were awesome. That is why they have 24 hour coverage, or close to it for the Olympics. Those athletes are usually one time things and the story is usually pretty good. They used to be about promoting the innocence and achievement in athletes, Eddie the Eagle being the exception. Now an Up Close and personal on Kobe in the Athens games would make me cringe. It just seems that with ESPN having four networks along with ABC, everything is about promotion and not sport. It seems that recently it is out of control. A case in point the story about....ah crap I forget his name but the lineman the was hit by Sapp. I thought it was cheap shot and they went on about the rehab which was all fine and dandy but the feeling I got was this was the beginning of a hype campaign for the Packer/Buc game in November. The hit was clean and although I did not agree with it, it is football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 2, 2003 Author Share Posted September 2, 2003 how old are you? I ask that, not to be snippy or mean, but as a point of reference to evaluate how much you have seen. 33, and the olympic tragedy was never covered this crazy 10 days later to be the lead or top story that many days later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 how old are you? I ask that, not to be snippy or mean, but as a point of reference to evaluate how much you have seen. 33, and the olympic tragedy aws never covered this crazy 10 days later. Come on if I have to hear one more time about Eric Heiden, Mark Spitz or Dan Jansen falling, I am going to puke. Edwin Moses is making a run at the Athens games, no pun intended, he is serious. I thought the article was going to tell of his passing, away that is, not the competition like in '81. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Wasn't it the previous day...? He got out of the hospital on Monday hours before the game according to BBTN and the Trib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 2, 2003 Author Share Posted September 2, 2003 how old are you? I ask that, not to be snippy or mean, but as a point of reference to evaluate how much you have seen. 33, and the olympic tragedy aws never covered this crazy 10 days later. Come on if I have to hear one more time about Eric Heiden, Mark Spitz or Dan Jansen falling, I am going to puke. Edwin Moses is making a run at the Athens games, no pun intended, he is serious. I thought the article was going to tell of his passing, away that is, not the competition like in '81. I am talking about murders in 1972 at the Olympic village, not examples you are listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 how old are you? I ask that, not to be snippy or mean, but as a point of reference to evaluate how much you have seen. 33, and the olympic tragedy was never covered this crazy 10 days later to be the lead or top story that many days later. then I am wondering what you watch vs what I watch - I suppose really I watch very little if any sports news shows - so maybe that is why the coverage seems usual to me and excessive to you - from my only viewing habits, this has been played about as much as the Mike Tyson rape case, no more no less - age is not the difference so it has to be things we view then Munich would have been covered much more had they had the technology and 24 hour cable stations then - I think it was covered less only because of technology differerences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 that has been going on forever, or at least, 31 years when ABC began to do "up close and personal" things on Olympics athletes rather than actually show the Olympic competition itself - been going on for a long, long time and with 24 hour sports and news networks, ESPN began in what, the mid 70s, or 80 or 81 at the very latest. what else do they have to fill airtime with? Jim McKay and the Up Close and Personal segments are/were awesome. That is why they have 24 hour coverage, or close to it for the Olympics. Those athletes are usually one time things and the story is usually pretty good. They used to be about promoting the innocence and achievement in athletes, Eddie the Eagle being the exception. Now an Up Close and personal on Kobe in the Athens games would make me cringe. It just seems that with ESPN having four networks along with ABC, everything is about promotion and not sport. It seems that recently it is out of control. A case in point the story about....ah crap I forget his name but the lineman the was hit by Sapp. I thought it was cheap shot and they went on about the rehab which was all fine and dandy but the feeling I got was this was the beginning of a hype campaign for the Packer/Buc game in November. The hit was clean and although I did not agree with it, it is football. I hated Up Close and Personal then and I hate it now it took us away from the actual sports event to make it all packaging and fluff and canned s*** and none of the real compoetition back in the day you could watch actual athletes complete and stars emerge rather than hear what someone's 7th grade school teacher thought about an athlete that tv has picked to push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 the olympic tragedy aws never covered this crazy 10 days later. Come on if I have to hear one more time about Eric Heiden, Mark Spitz or Dan Jansen falling, I am going to puke. how do you go from Munich 1972 and the deaths of what, 16 atheletes, to the examples you cite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 My heart goes out to the Bonds family on the loss of Mr.Bonds , but the media ESPN in particular acts like Barry is the only baseball or human being on earth who has ever lost a parent or loved one. Most people cannot get a week off before and after the loss of a parent or upon return take a day off, most people are lucky to get 3 days at best. Every night on Sportscenter it is the lead or 2nd story on the show about Barry's plight is beyond overkill. Would u have a problem with it if it was of our guys? Bonds is the Michael Jordan of baseball...He's gonna get a lot of attention. Just deal with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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