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8/3 Game-thread- Quintana vs. Gibson. 1:10 CSN


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Let's not make out like Q is the victim totally, either. You CAN'T continue to labor through 5 innings, with a s***ty bullpen, and wonder why you aren't getting wins. 116 pitches for 15 outs is abysmal, but seems to be the norm for Quintana.

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QUOTE (Capn12 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 09:08 PM)
Let's not make out like Q is the victim totally, either. You CAN'T continue to labor through 5 innings, with a s***ty bullpen, and wonder why you aren't getting wins. 116 pitches for 15 outs is abysmal, but seems to be the norm for Quintana.

 

True, but his defense probably added 30 pitches or so to his count today.

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QUOTE (Capn12 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:08 PM)
Let's not make out like Q is the victim totally, either. You CAN'T continue to labor through 5 innings, with a s***ty bullpen, and wonder why you aren't getting wins. 116 pitches for 15 outs is abysmal, but seems to be the norm for Quintana.

 

I agree, defiantly labored but the defense didn't help him at all and the rain delay

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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 02:07 PM)
The sad thing is there is absolutely no help coming from the minors, with regards to the bullpen, unless it's Rodon. Lack of pitching depth throughout the system has killed the Sox this year.

You'll know when things are hopeless if they bring up Nestor Molina.

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QUOTE (Capn12 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:08 PM)
Let's not make out like Q is the victim totally, either. You CAN'T continue to labor through 5 innings, with a s***ty bullpen, and wonder why you aren't getting wins. 116 pitches for 15 outs is abysmal, but seems to be the norm for Quintana.

 

Before this outing, I'm pretty sure he had gone at least 7 innings in 7 of his last 8 starts.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:09 PM)
This bullpen plus Beckham and Dunn makes this team look horrible. Why we haven't replaced Beckham with just about anyone else is beyond me.

 

Semien for Beckham

Wilkins for Dunn

Bullpen is pretty much unfixable at this point

Semien for Beckham yes, Wilkins for Dunn no.

 

Hopefully Linstrom helps the pen, although he wasn't very good before he got injured.

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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 05:10 PM)
Before this outing, I'm pretty sure he had gone at least 7 innings in 7 of his last 8 starts.

 

Close. Before today, he had gone 7 or more in 6 of the last 9 games.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:07 PM)
The sad thing is there is absolutely no help coming from the minors, with regards to the bullpen, unless it's Rodon. Lack of pitching depth throughout the system has killed the Sox this year.

Be glad you're not a Knights fan. Their bullpen this year has been punch-your-grandma bad.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:07 PM)
The sad thing is there is absolutely no help coming from the minors, with regards to the bullpen, unless it's Rodon. Lack of pitching depth throughout the system has killed the Sox this year.

 

I love Ben Brewster, who was just named our prospect of the month. He's already pitched at 3 levels since being drafted. Wouldn't be shocked to see him pitch at 1 or 2 more this year and make the club next year.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:21 PM)
Dunn is 22nd in the AL in OPS. Ahead of Pujols, Donaldson, Cespedes, Longoria and Jacoby Ellsbury. How is he the problem? Did you just carry this over from the offseason?

 

He is still horrible.. .227 with 44 RBIs? what kind of DH/1B is that?

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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:09 PM)
True, but his defense probably added 30 pitches or so to his count today.

 

He would have easily gone 6 innings today if it wasn't for the defense behind him. About the only thing left for Q to improve on is going a little deeper into games but he is still on pace to throw over 200 innings again this year and he's averaging over 6 innings a start so it isn't like pitching deep into games has been a huge problem for him.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:28 PM)
He is still horrible.. .227 with 44 RBIs? what kind of DH/1B is that?

 

Batting average is a pretty meaningless stat without any other context. Especially in the context of an .845 OPS against righties.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 04:28 PM)
He is still horrible.. .227 with 44 RBIs? what kind of DH/1B is that?

 

Congratulations on citing possibly the two worst stats to evaluate a hitter by. Remember, Dunn typically bats behind a guy that has driven in 83 with 31 homers. There's not a whole lot of RBI opportunities left after Abreu bats.

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