greg775 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) Very limited interest in the MLB Draft. Football and basketball drafts attract attention because the players most likely will make the roster the following year. I am pretty sure I heard where 1 player from the 2012 draft has made it to a ML roster other than the Sept call-ups. I have zero interest in the MLB Draft but I am outnumbered on this board. Don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 02:48 PM) I have zero interest in the MLB Draft but I am outnumbered on this board. Don't care. And yet you keep coming into the draft position tracking thread to comment about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) And yet you keep coming into the draft position tracking thread to comment about it. He's already told us that this thread personally offends him, yet he seems to be very active in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professa Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Avi Garcia's numbers translated to 550 ABs: 26 HRs 99 RBIs 51 BBs .793 OPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 12:28 PM) What I don't understand is if people don't like Dayan Viciedo or Adam Dunn, why would they like Pedro Alvarez? Because he's not on the whitesox. Surely you've noticed the "grass is always greener" around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 05:21 PM) Because he's not on the whitesox. Surely you've noticed the "grass is always greener" around here. And the more vague that the return is, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 QUOTE (professa @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 03:16 PM) Avi Garcia's numbers translated to 550 ABs: 26 HRs 99 RBIs 51 BBs .793 OPS Yummy. Also, it's not unreasonable to expect an improvement since many of his at bats where of the "getting reacclimated" variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 12:48 PM) I have zero interest in the MLB Draft but I am outnumbered on this board. Don't care. Could have fooled me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 11:31 PM) Yummy. Also, it's not unreasonable to expect an improvement since many of his at bats where of the "getting reacclimated" variety. Good point. In the month of September he is slashing .308/.378/.492 with 3 HRs, 3 2Bs, 3 SBs and 11 RBIs. Over 600 PAs, that would end up being an .870 OPS with 24 HRs, 24 2Bs, 24 SBs and 89 RBIs. That's pretty much All-Star level play. The most impressive thing to me is that he has raised his walk rate to 10.8% and lowered his K rate to 17.5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 He just looks like he's guessing on every pitch. IMO, if he is going to be a guess hitter, then we're probably seeing his ceiling right now. That said, he's still young and just missed a season. There's no reason to "give up" on him yet, but he's going to have to show substantial improvement in his pitch recognition and his approach to hitting next year if we're going to be able to depend on him as a future piece of the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 21, 2014 -> 11:31 PM) Yummy. Also, it's not unreasonable to expect an improvement since many of his at bats where of the "getting reacclimated" variety. I would definitely expect an improvement over a full year of play. Everyone forgets how young he still is, and how much learning he still has to accomplish at the ML level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 White Sox have moved back to #10 again..... Are 6.5 GB of the #4 pick Are 5 GB of the #5 pick Are 3.5 GB of the #6 pick Are 2.5 GB of the #7 pick Are 0.5 GB of the #9 pick Are 3 games ahead of the Marlins for a protected pick. Also, the Dbacks have finally dethroned the Rangers as the worst record in baseball. Texas held that spot for most of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Sox are really trying their hardest to just f*** this season up even more by winning these pointless games. Sox are now tied for the #10 pick. They win the tiebreaker with the Reds, however, because the Marlins are the 12th spot and the Marlins had a worse record last season, THEY win the tiebreaker over the Sox if they would become tied for the 11th pick......in conclusion.... 6 GB of the Twins for the #5 pick 4 GB of the Red Sox for the #6 pick 3.5 GB of the Astros/Cubs for the #7/#8 pick 1 GB of the Phillies for the #9 pick 0.5 games ahead of the Reds for the #11 pick 2 games ahead of the Marlins for a protected pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 08:58 PM) Sox are really trying their hardest to just f*** this season up even more by winning these pointless games. Sox are now tied for the #10 pick. They win the tiebreaker with the Reds, however, because the Marlins are the 12th spot and the Marlins had a worse record last season, THEY win the tiebreaker over the Sox if they would become tied for the 11th pick......in conclusion.... 6 GB of the Twins for the #5 pick 4 GB of the Red Sox for the #6 pick 3.5 GB of the Astros/Cubs for the #7/#8 pick 1 GB of the Phillies for the #9 pick 0.5 games ahead of the Reds for the #11 pick 2 games ahead of the Marlins for a protected pick. whew..... I just thought the sox were just trying to piss me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm not rooting one way or another but I will point out that tonights matchup is Price vs. Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have given up on the Sox doing much to improve their draft position over the next 6 days. At this point, I just want them to break Detroit's hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) I have given up on the Sox doing much to improve their draft position over the next 6 days. At this point, I just want them to break Detroit's hearts. Again, we gain SO much more to gain by having guys like Garcia and Bassitt taking big steps forward, then we do from moving up a couple of draft spots. The one caveat I wills say is that I don't want them go finish any better than 10th worst, as it could really limit this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) Again, we gain SO much more to gain by having guys like Garcia and Bassitt taking big steps forward, then we do from moving up a couple of draft spots. The one caveat I wills say is that I don't want them go finish any better than 10th worst, as it could really limit this off season. That's pretty much my view as well. Though sans maybe VMart there's not really a guy I want who's more than likely gonna get a QO so I'm not real concerned about that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 11:09 PM) Again, we gain SO much more to gain by having guys like Garcia and Bassitt taking big steps forward, then we do from moving up a couple of draft spots. The one caveat I wills say is that I don't want them go finish any better than 10th worst, as it could really limit this off season. I would love to have the best possible position for a draft pick. however as you said about Garcia and Bassitt and any other prospects playing, yeah it is great for them to be in the majors. win or loose, they will gain valuable experience. if the decision is to draft a player like Brendan Rodgers a hs ss at #5-11 than Dansby Swanson hs ss at #12-14, the talent is a big drop off. the first one will really help in the rebuild and help the rebuild go faster. (just comparing prospect at the same position) lets look at pitching, again the drop off is just as big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Reds and Marlins win. The 10th or 11th pick next year looks probable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 22, 2014 -> 06:56 AM) He just looks like he's guessing on every pitch. IMO, if he is going to be a guess hitter, then we're probably seeing his ceiling right now. That said, he's still young and just missed a season. There's no reason to "give up" on him yet, but he's going to have to show substantial improvement in his pitch recognition and his approach to hitting next year if we're going to be able to depend on him as a future piece of the core. How on earth can you say he looks like he's guessing ? And is that a bad thing ? Most hitters guess at pitches . No one can hit a +FB with just reaction time alone . You have to be looking for it. Educated guessing is what separate's the good hitters from the mediocre. Know the game situation ,work the count , see ass many pitches as possible, know pitcher's tendencies by studying film and you can guess pretty damn good a lot of the time. It's being a smart hitter but it's still guessing. Edited September 24, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 We avoided another close call tonight. If the Padres win, we will be 3.5 games ahead of a protected pick. If they don't win, we will 3 games ahead of a protected pick. The Cubs and Phillies are the only realistic teams we could pass in these last 5 games. 2.5 GB of the Cubs for the 8th pick, 1 GB of the Phillies for the 9th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 11:01 PM) We avoided another close call tonight. If the Padres win, we will be 3.5 games ahead of a protected pick. If they don't win, we will 3 games ahead of a protected pick. The Cubs and Phillies are the only realistic teams we could pass in these last 5 games. 2.5 GB of the Cubs for the 8th pick, 1 GB of the Phillies for the 9th pick. Hopefully we can lock down the protected pick by saturday, so the sox can give paulie a W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 QUOTE (staxx @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) Hopefully we can lock down the protected pick by saturday, so the sox can give paulie a W. Yeah, and Sale shuts out DET but we lose 1-0 in extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) Yeah, and Sale shuts out DET but we lose 1-0 in extras. I'd prefer to beat Detroit and then let KC walk all over us. Make Detroit play the one-game WC rather than KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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