southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Farmer is just losing his s***. I can't imagine Hawk is any worse than this right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) This rule sucks. Wow same play with Posey Only difference is Posey was farther up the line by a foot or so.. Both had their foot in the baseline though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Q made the pitch and got screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) Farmer is just losing his s***. I can't imagine Hawk is any worse than this right now. Hawk is actually pretty composed. He isn't happy about it, but he isn't going crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Shouldn't that run be unearned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) Farmer is just losing his s***. I can't imagine Hawk is any worse than this right now. Hawk said he wishes he could cuss and the rule is ridiculous. Also need 4 impartial people in NY and not umpires Edited August 13, 2014 by BigHurt3515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) Hawk is actually pretty composed. He isn't happy about it, but he isn't going crazy Farmer is STILL going on and on about it. I have no idea what is going on in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguchicago Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hawk is right "this isn't baseball" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) Shouldn't that run be unearned Fielders Choice, RBI, ER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have never heard Farmer this mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) Fielders Choice, RBI, ER. Shouldn't blocking the plate be an error on the catcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:50 PM) Shouldn't blocking the plate be an error on the catcher? Mental I guess. Probably didn't make that rule or even think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 MLB is embarrassing themselves with this rule and interpretation. In high school baseball, I can tell you that it's not obstruction in the slightest. Easily had the ball before a slide was even starting. If it can't be obstruction in high school baseball, there's no way it could be so in MLB. He was not scoring, or even close to scoring, if Flowers wasn't there. That's not blocking the pathway. Here's the part of the rule: "Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe." Had ball, didn't block pathway before having the ball - or at least to the point where he had to slide or deviate. How far do you take this? Guy rounds third, and you're blocking the pathway at that point, out by 40 feet...well, you were blocking the pathway at some given point. They've gone so safe on this rule due to not wanting collisions. This isn't hard. You use the high school rule for obstruction. It's either a badly written rule, they are instructed to have terrible interpretation, or both. Flowers foot in the pathway had zero effect on that play. Had he been starting his slide or mid-slide and he still didn't have the ball but had a foot there, then you call the obstruction. That was just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:47 PM) Only difference is Posey was farther up the line by a foot or so.. Both had their foot in the baseline though Only difference is the throw to posey was from a different angle, that's why posey was a lil off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Mental I guess. Probably didn't make that rule or even think about it They did no thinking regarding that rule whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Q gets f***ed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Gameday is saying Thome got ejected. I'm guessing this is a mistake and it was RV that got ejected? If it actually was Thome then that has to be one hell of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:50 PM) Shouldn't blocking the plate be an error on the catcher? No, the throw home is a fielders choice, and you can't assume an out. It was the same under the old rule if a runner smashed a catcher and knocked the ball out, it was a hit/FC and RBI, no error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:43 PM) Completely agree Hawk. It's just not baseball. I think Hawk is embarrassing himself. I'm not referring to this particular tag play The difference between "the good old days" and today is that medical science knows a lot more about the longterm effects of concussions on the brain. There's, you know, a lot of guys committing suicide because of it. He said (paraphrasing) "what, are they gonna turn football into a girls' game?" He said that out loud and it was broadcast on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:51 PM) Only difference is the throw to posey was from a different angle, that's why posey was a lil off Well yeah that is why they were in different positions.. I just don't see how they can call him safe unless he would have been safe if the catcher isn't blocking the plate. It is a stupid rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This blows, now we see belly flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 They need to re-write the rule right away. I don't think it's actually prevented any collisions. Instead, it's just given teams runs when they shouldn't have gotten them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:52 PM) Gameday is saying Thome got ejected. I'm guessing this is a mistake and it was RV that got ejected? If it actually was Thome then that has to be one hell of a story. Ventura was absolutely ejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol, Garcia will lead off next inning instead of the pitcher.. It is practically the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Farmer STILL going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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