Do you think Ilitch will give Scherzer $210 million over 7 years?

[caulfield12]

http://www.freep.com/article/20140816/COL0...ract-drew-sharp

[Chicago White Sox]

Caulfield, I'll give you a lot of credit, you have to be the first poster to start a topic with multiple sentences in the title.

[LDF]

 

re: Ilitch, it all depends on this yr playoff and det success.

[caulfield12]

Caulfield, I'll give you a lot of credit, you have to be the first poster to start a topic with multiple sentences in the title.

 

 

I actually didn't do it intentionally...always seems like there's an extra line in there when you do a poll that's kind of superfluous.

[southsider2k5]

I hope so.

[Chicago White Sox]

I actually didn't do it intentionally...always seems like there's an extra line in there when you do a poll that's kind of superfluous.

Just giving you a hard time, no worries.

[greg775]

I hope so.

I can guarantee you he won't be efficient all 7 years, not in this day and age of injuries. They'll be lucky to get 3 good to great years out of the 7.

[BaconOnAStick]

As much as I want them to further sink any chances they'll have at competing after 2015, I doubt they are this stupid.

Edited August 17, 2014 by BaconOnAStick

[Jerksticks]

Think Scherzer would like 4/100 from us...3/90?

 

And then do you think Chris Sale would like it if we did that?

[LDF]

 

you have to think about 1 thing when you are talking about Scherzer, you really got to remember

who his agent is. do you think he will accept anything less that what they are talking about or

accept anything less is yrs?

[southsider2k5]

Think Scherzer would like 4/100 from us...3/90?

 

And then do you think Chris Sale would like it if we did that?

 

He'd leave something like $100 million on the table. That makes the answer, no.

[Jerksticks]

He'd leave something like $100 million on the table. That makes the answer, no.

I hate that you can't entice guys with more upfront cash with less of a commitment. But yea, $100 million. You're gonna be right.

[LDF]

He'd leave something like $100 million on the table. That makes the answer, no.

 

100 mil is a lot of money, don't get me wrong. but Max Scherzer is 30 yr old now, this is

his final contract. His agent will want 1 final contract and he wants yrs and of course money.

now the questions 1. do you think he will accept less in yrs and money 2. I hate to say this

and be a kill joy, but do you think the sox will be to only team coming up with money this your

scenario 3. I forgot what JR said last week about contracts, but do you think he will make this

contract.

 

I believe the sox should get a ace pitcher like Scherzer, but a 7 yr contract ????

 

 

peace

[greg775]

Who gives a s*** what Sale thinks. I would sign Scherzer to a 4/100 so quick your head would spin. I get REALLY excited imagining Sale/Scherzer/Quintana/Rodon in the same rotation.

 

Just let some other team sign him at that dollar amount and shake your head when he gets hurt or turns into Verlander.

[southsider2k5]

If the Sox had an opportunity to sign Scherzer to a 4/100 contract they would it in a heart beat. It'll never happen.

 

So would about 28 other teams.

[caulfield12]

If the Sox had an opportunity to sign Scherzer to a 4/100 contract they would it in a heart beat. It'll never happen.

 

 

Yep, it's years 5-8 or 9 or 10 that are the killers with these contracts.

 

The Tanakas and Abreus of the world are few and far between. In this market, maybe only Yasmani Tomas and the Japanese pitcher who has been so dominant.

 

Of course, the likelihood of the White Sox giving that many years to a relatively-unknown Japanese pitcher, especially after all the concerns about Tanaka have emerges this season have to be about 1-3%.

[greg775]

If the Sox had an opportunity to sign Scherzer to a 4/100 contract they would it in a heart beat. It'll never happen.

Are you serious? What proof do we have of this? Even good pitchers turn to crud. Look at Peavy this year. The minute you sign a Scherzer to that, he can tweak an arm in an instant or lose velocity or whatever. I don't care about Jerry's money and wouldn't freak if they pay him, I just don't see it.

[witesoxfan]

Are you serious? What proof do we have of this? Even good pitchers turn to crud. Look at Peavy this year. The minute you sign a Scherzer to that, he can tweak an arm in an instant or lose velocity or whatever. I don't care about Jerry's money and wouldn't freak if they pay him, I just don't see it.

 

And a lot of times, good pitchers remain good pitchers. With a pitcher as good and talented as Scherzer, almost every team would take a chance on Scherzer at 4 years and $100 mill because they can simply hope to win a division and move on to the playoffs or they can hope he remains healthy enough that they can deal him after 2 or 3 years and pick up a few prospects.

 

I think you will see a similar situation to the Burnett, Tanaka, and Sabathia contracts - 6-7 years with a player opt out after 3 or 4 years.

[kitekrazy]

I'd rather see the Sox grow their own pitchers.

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

A) He already turned down a massive contract extension to stay with his current team, a team that plays in what is likely the weakest division in the league and has a "decent chance to play for a pennant" every single season.

 

B) He is a Scott Boras client. He will receive the max contract the free agent pitching market allows this off-season. His contact will either set the market at the beginning of the off-season or he will wait until late February to sign.

 

C) Scherzer wants to sign with a team where he will be the "ace" and the opening day starter. Chris Sale owns this town. He's not going to sign here so he can play second fiddle.

 

D) After the Danks contract blowing up in the Sox face (not like, OMG NUKE explosion... more like, mentos + diet pepsi) and Reinsdorf's persistent commentary about the dangers of free agent pitchers' contracts both would suggest that the Sox aren't signing any significant free agent pitchers any time soon.

[caulfield12]

A) He already turned down a massive contract extension to stay with his current team, a team that plays in what is likely the weakest division in the league and has a "decent chance to play for a pennant" every single season.

 

B) He is a Scott Boras client. He will receive the max contract the free agent pitching market allows this off-season. His contact will either set the market at the beginning of the off-season or he will wait until late February to sign.

 

C) Scherzer wants to sign with a team where he will be the "ace" and the opening day starter. Chris Sale owns this town. He's not going to sign here so he can play second fiddle.

 

D) After the Danks contract blowing up in the Sox face (not like, OMG NUKE explosion... more like, mentos + diet pepsi) and Reinsdorf's persistent commentary about the dangers of free agent pitchers' contracts both would suggest that the Sox aren't signing any significant free agent pitchers any time soon.

 

Especially Tanaka...that would have been as much a disaster if more more than Abreu contract has been a pleasant surprise.

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

Especially Tanaka...that would have been as much a disaster if more more than Abreu contract has been a pleasant surprise.

 

Yea and the day before the reports of his arm injury I had posted about how the Sox would be in first place with Tanaka splitting up Sale/Quintana in the rotation.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Seeing the progression of how Rodon is being handled, I am going to say there is a near zero chance that the White Sox spend 9 figures, or probably even 8, on a starting pitcher contract this winter.

[LDF]

Seeing the progression of how Rodon is being handled, I am going to say there is a near zero chance that the White Sox spend 9 figures, or probably even 8, on a starting pitcher contract this winter.

 

and I am in agreement with what you are saying.