The Beheading

[Balta1701]

Yesterday: U.S. Airdrops Weapons and Supplies to Kurds Fighting in Kobani

 

Today:

The Islamic State has released a new video in which it brags that it recovered weapons and supplies that the U.S. military intended to deliver to Kurdish fighters, who are locked in a fight with the militants over control of the Syrian border town of Kobane.

 

The SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks jihadist social media accounts, drew attention to the video Tuesday. At one point, it appears to show a masked militant raking his hands through a crate filled with hand grenades.

[southsider2k5]

Yesterday: U.S. Airdrops Weapons and Supplies to Kurds Fighting in Kobani

 

Today:

 

I always love the contrast of a story like this against the backdrop of people who feel the US government/miliary brought down the WTC.

[Balta1701]

I always love the contrast of a story like this against the backdrop of people who feel the US government/miliary brought down the WTC.

They might have accidentally dropped a crate of munitions on it that were aimed for overseas.

[Texsox]

I find it interesting that our friends the Saudis behead about eighty "criminals" per year for things you don't even get arrested for in the U.S. and we never complain. I wonder why.

[LittleHurt05]

Apparently beheading wasn't getting these guys off anymore. They put the Jordanian pilot in a cage with accelerant on him, then lead a long trail of the stuff. They lit it on fire so he slowly watched the flames approach him until he was burned alive. Sick bastards

 

In response, Jordan plans on executing the female terrorist prisoner that had set to be exchanged for the pilot.

[Harry Chappas]

Apparently beheading wasn't getting these guys off anymore. They put the Jordanian pilot in a cage with accelerant on him, then lead a long trail of the stuff. They lit it on fire so he slowly watched the flames approach him until he was burned alive. Sick bastards

 

In response, Jordan plans on executing the female terrorist prisoner that had set to be exchanged for the pilot.

 

They should do it the same way. I know that is a knee jerk reaction.

 

 

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

I unfortunately came across this news right around lunch time. Appetite swiftly vanished by the time I was done reading the title of the article. They were talking about swapping the Iraqi woman from the failed suicide bombing in Jordan for this guy as recently as this week, yet he's been long gone (January 3).

As shocking as s*** like this is for everyone, I can't imagine how the family of this guy must feel right now- being led on and hopeful that somehow this would end differently only to learn that it was never an option... How did vermin like this manage to come into existence? It's mind-boggling that they breathe the same air as we do.

[Balta1701]

I unfortunately came across this news right around lunch time. Appetite swiftly vanished by the time I was done reading the title of the article. They were talking about swapping the Iraqi woman from the failed suicide bombing in Jordan for this guy as recently as this week, yet he's been long gone (January 3).

As shocking as s*** like this is for everyone, I can't imagine how the family of this guy must feel right now- being led on and hopeful that somehow this would end differently only to learn that it was never an option... How did vermin like this manage to come into existence? It's mind-boggling that they breathe the same air as we do.

Just remember, every time you fill up your gas tank, you're making a strong statement in support of beheading.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Just remember, every time you fill up your gas tank, you're making a strong statement in support of beheading.

 

[LittleHurt05]

Just remember, every time you fill up your gas tank, you're making a strong statement in support of beheading.

 

Just remember, every time you buy Chicago Bears tickets or merchandise, you're making a strong statement in support of anti-vaccination.

 

[Balta1701]

Just remember, every time you buy Chicago Bears tickets or merchandise, you're making a strong statement in support of anti-vaccination.

Go Bills.

[Jenksismyhero]

Go Bills.

 

You rooting for and/or watching a second of the NFL means you support murderers, drug addicts, alcoholics, rapists, adulterers, wife beaters, child abusers, animal abusers and unethical rich people.

 

How dare you.

[Balta1701]

You rooting for and/or watching a second of the NFL means you support murderers, drug addicts, alcoholics, rapists, adulterers, wife beaters, child abusers, animal abusers and unethical rich people.

 

How dare you.

So tell me, why is it ok for Saudi Arabia to behead someone for witchcraft? Why does that deserve our strong support?

[StrangeSox]

It doesn't, but buying gasoline or products made from or distributed with oil doesn't mean you support SA.

[Jenksismyhero]

So tell me, why is it ok for Saudi Arabia to behead someone for witchcraft? Why does that deserve our strong support?

 

I don't think anyone is saying it's ok, but, if we're being honest, at least that's all based on law that people know about. They're not kidnapping and then beheading/setting someone on fire because their country didn't offer ransom money.

[Balta1701]

I don't think anyone is saying it's ok, but, if we're being honest, at least that's all based on law that people know about. They're not kidnapping and then beheading/setting someone on fire because their country didn't offer ransom money.

It's not ok, but here's a justification.

 

And they accuse liberals of being relative on morality.

[Jenksismyhero]

It's not ok, but here's a justification.

 

And they accuse liberals of being relative on morality.

 

How do you read that as justification? I'm saying both are wrong and s***ty but one slightly less so.

[StrangeSox]

I'd say the one that has the guise of legality is actually even worse.

[Jenksismyhero]

I'd say the one that has the guise of legality is actually even worse.

 

How? At least in that situation you're afforded the option of NOT doing something to prevent your death.

[StrangeSox]

How? At least in that situation you're afforded the option of NOT doing something to prevent your death.

ISIS's barbaric actions were carried out against a foreign prisoner of war. Saudi Arabia's is cold, calculated, deliberate and carried out against their own citizens. That they have a legal system that explicitly endorses such barbaric actions is morally worse, in my opinion, than the seemingly crazy violence of ISIS.

 

edit: the SA beheadings are also over witchcraft. Not exactly a legitimate law there.

Edited February 5, 2015 by StrangeSox

[Balta1701]

ISIS's barbaric actions were carried out against a foreign prisoner of war. Saudi Arabia's is cold, calculated, deliberate and carried out against their own citizens. That they have a legal system that explicitly endorses such barbaric actions is morally worse, in my opinion, than the seemingly crazy violence of ISIS.

 

edit: the SA beheadings are also over witchcraft. Not exactly a legitimate law there.

Yeah, I mean, all they had to do was not be a witch. That would have avoided a beheading. They should not have been a witch.

[Jenksismyhero]

ISIS's barbaric actions were carried out against a foreign prisoner of war. Saudi Arabia's is cold, calculated, deliberate and carried out against their own citizens. That they have a legal system that explicitly endorses such barbaric actions is morally worse, in my opinion, than the seemingly crazy violence of ISIS.

 

edit: the SA beheadings are also over witchcraft. Not exactly a legitimate law there.

 

They behead journalists. Completely innocent people who just happen to be associated with a western country. You're delusional if you don't think that's just as cold, calculated, and deliberate.

 

Yes, SA's actions are also reprehensible, but in the land of "which is worse, cancer or cancer," I'll choose at least having the option of NOT being killed. I'm not sure how sophisticated the "witchcraft" laws are, but I suspect you have to be found guilty of doing something. You're not executed just because of your citizenship.

[Balta1701]

They behead journalists. Completely innocent people who just happen to be associated with a western country. You're delusional if you don't think that's just as cold, calculated, and deliberate.

 

Yes, SA's actions are also reprehensible, but in the land of "which is worse, cancer or cancer," I'll choose at least having the option of NOT being killed. I'm not sure how sophisticated the "witchcraft" laws are, but I suspect you have to be found guilty of doing something. You're not executed just because of your citizenship.

“In many cases,” explains Adam Coogle, a Middle East researcher at Human Rights Watch, “a domestic worker, from rural India or Bangladesh or wherever, might bring along a folk heirloom, something that is perceived by the Saudi host to be an object of witchcraft.” In other situations, the accusation arises as a countercharge. The domestic worker has tried to charge her employer with some kind of mistreatment—withheld wages, say, or sexual assault. In turn, the employer accuses her of being a witch.

 

Saudi Arabia doesn’t have a written criminal code. In its religious courts, a guest worker accused of witchcraft or sorcery is guaranteed neither a lawyer nor a translator, says Coogle. Her fate depends in part on the inclinations of the presiding judge, who often collaborates with the prosecutor in order to define the charges.

 

In 2012, according to Saudi Gazette, Saudi authorities arrested 215 supposed magicians. In 2011, a special witchcraft-busting unit reported that it had handled nearly 600 claims in the preceding few years. Not all these charges are leveled against foreigners. Saudi citizens, too, have been arraigned, and executed, for sorcery.

Seems legit. That's the kind of legal system we need to be praising. Swift and efficient.

[Jenksismyhero]

Seems legit. That's the kind of legal system we need to be praising. Swift and efficient.

 

Where are you getting that i'm approving of this system, let alone "praising" it? I'm saying it's the better of two awful choices. That's it.

[StrangeSox]

They behead journalists. Completely innocent people who just happen to be associated with a western country. You're delusional if you don't think that's just as cold, calculated, and deliberate.

 

Yes, SA's actions are also reprehensible, but in the land of "which is worse, cancer or cancer," I'll choose at least having the option of NOT being killed. I'm not sure how sophisticated the "witchcraft" laws are, but I suspect you have to be found guilty of doing something. You're not executed just because of your citizenship.

 

I am in no way defending ISIS's actions, but ISIS is a lawless insurgency whose only legitimacy is force. Saudi Arabia is a functional government who beheads their own citizens for "witchcraft." It's more that I hold actual countries and legal systems to a higher standard.