Why the A's should trade for Adam Dunn

[harfman77]

There is definitely a solid number of people that want to keep Danks. Personally, I prefer Noesi over Danks at this point as a back end of the rotation guy when you factor in cost.

 

I think most prefer Noesi at this point, but those of us that want to keep Danks feel that we are going to need both of those guys next year. Danks was relatively effective until the rails fell off a month ago against the Astros and he has been bad ever since. But Danks still represents a better rotation option than anyone else the Sox have to fill out the rotation behind Sale, Q, Noesi, and Rodon next year. I am reticent to let a league average guy walk without having a replacement in place. If you can sign someone like Masterson in the off-season, then a Danks move makes sense.

[witesoxfan]

Adam Dunn will have been paid $56 million for 4 years where he put up a collective -1.2 WAR. Giving him a D is being very kind.

 

Dunn seems like a good guy and a good teammate, and one guy who I have never seen loaf. I am not a member of his hater club, but face it, he was a bust.

 

I won't disagree with that. His first season gets as big of an F as possible, but it's the clear outlier. He didn't perform as expected, but given what he did the last 3 years, I think an overall grade of a D (which is subjective based anyways) is a bit unreasonable.

 

At worst, I guess I'd give him a C, and I am in agreement that he was a bust of a free agent prize, though he's not the worst free agent signing in Sox history, so at least there's that.

[witesoxfan]

First on Paul Konerko

I think you would agree it'd be fair to give him an incomplete with just 171 at bats. 22 RBI isn't exactly horrible, but considering his .234 average and .273 on base he probably would get a C-minus, maybe even a D. But again, I'd argue an incomplete would be more fair. He truly was just a figurehead this season. For his Sox career I'd give him an A.

 

As far as Dunn's grade of D to D- for his Sox career...

Tangibles: Well, he goes out with a whimper this year with his 412 plate appearances. He has 49 RBI and 19 HRs. Good on base percentage but batting average of .224.

He for his career had the 2011 season where he hit .159. I don't even know how that's possible. His on base was bad. The second year he hit .204 with 222 strikeouts. He did go for 41 hrs and 96 RBIs and had a .333 on base. That's a weird stat line. Obviously he was productive when he hit the ball.

His third year he hit .219, 34, 86 with a .320 on base.

In conclusion, he drew a lot of walks, struck out a ton, had two good home run years out of four. Upon studying all the facts I would probably give him a D instead of D-.

I guess a C- is possible considering modern baseball stat analysis would give him a lot of credit for all the walks and two out of four 'good' home run seasons is by definition, an average performance which lends itself more to a C-.

 

I would stick with a high D however because of his historically bad season the first year and all the whiffs. Not to mention the fact MOST of the time he refused to go with the pitch even though he proved he could hit it out to all fields.

I stick with D, but I would not freak if somebody gave him a C- I guess.

 

To those of you who would somehow give him a B for his SOX career, I ask you, are the walks he drew truly that important that he gets a B? Are you giving him a B for the two decent-to-good home run/RBI seasons? Do all the walks he drew make him a Sox success story (especially considering he's pretty slow?). I don't know how he could get anything above a C- based on the stats.

 

This is at least well reasoned. But you call his 19 home runs this year a "poor home run season," but I bet you don't know how many people have hit 19 home runs this year, do you?

 

That number is 29. Only 29 players in all of baseball have hit at least 19 home runs this year.

[Chicago White Sox]

I won't disagree with that. His first season gets as big of an F as possible, but it's the clear outlier. He didn't perform as expected, but given what he did the last 3 years, I think an overall grade of a D (which is subjective based anyways) is a bit unreasonable.

 

At worst, I guess I'd give him a C, and I am in agreement that he was a bust of a free agent prize, though he's not the worst free agent signing in Sox history, so at least there's that.

His total WAR from 2012 to 2014 will likely end up around 2 by the end of this season. Given that we paid him $42M over the last three years, I'd say a D is more than fair. And that doesn't even include 2011, which is one of the worst seasons in modern baseball history.

 

I'm not a Dunn hater but clearly the move has not worked out for us.

[2nd_city_saint787]

This is at least well reasoned. But you call his 19 home runs this year a "poor home run season," but I bet you don't know how many people have hit 19 home runs this year, do you?

 

That number is 29. Only 29 players in all of baseball have hit at least 19 home runs this year.

 

And to add to that 20 of those players have at least 400 ABs....Dunn has 343....14 of em have more than 443.

[Balta1701]

And to add to that 20 of those players have at least 400 ABs....Dunn has 343....14 of em have more than 443.

Yeah, but Dunn wouldn't have many more if he had another 100 PA's. Might not have any more.

[2nd_city_saint787]

Yeah, but Dunn wouldn't have many more if he had another 100 PA's. Might not have any more.

 

Maybe not, but I'm mainly using it as a comparison.

 

BTW he does have 2 HRs in 50 ABs against LHP this year and he did have 6 last year in 122 so he can still hit some bombs off LHP....All he'd need is 2 more to be in the top 20.

[LittleHurt05]

I won't disagree with that. His first season gets as big of an F as possible, but it's the clear outlier. He didn't perform as expected, but given what he did the last 3 years, I think an overall grade of a D (which is subjective based anyways) is a bit unreasonable.

 

At worst, I guess I'd give him a C, and I am in agreement that he was a bust of a free agent prize, though he's not the worst free agent signing in Sox history, so at least there's that.

 

The thing is, when they signed him, it wasn't about producing all 4 years. That contract length was what it took to sign him, but they wanted him to help get them over the hump in 2011 and 2012. He proceeded to have the worst season in baseball history. That's a huge part of his grade IMO. His stats this year have little bearing on his grade, whether he hit .150 or 50 homers, it's a rebuilding year and they were stuck with him. Granted the 2011 team only won 79 games, so he wasn't the sole person to blame, but that played a huge part.

 

His overall stats may say C, but the failure of 2011 makes me lean towards D.

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Now that machado's out for the year, maybe they could use one of our bats?

[lasttriptotulsa]

Yeah, but Dunn wouldn't have many more if he had another 100 PA's. Might not have any more.

 

Dunns power numbers dont suffer all that much versus lefties. Mainly just his average. That 100 hundred or so PAs probably cost him 4-5 HRs.

[brian310]

Now that machado's out for the year, maybe they could use one of our bats?

 

Think they are happy with Steven Pearce and Delmon Young