chitownsportsfan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) Those people are just sad, I'm sorry, its embarrassing. I know every fan base has those fans but ugh. Go figure they are all clean cut white guys they are pining for...if only the Sox could field a 100 win team on the cut of the jib. Edited August 22, 2014 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane 28m As far as the PTBNL or cash for Gordon Beckham, Rick Hahn said there's a pool of potential players who will be evaluated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Holmberg getting hammered. Remember when I thought that was a bad deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Ding-Dong Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) Those people are just sad, I'm sorry, its embarrassing. I know every fan base has those fans but ugh. From Facebook: Lorraine Thompson-Winenger WHAT???? That's right....trade one of your BEST players!! #DumbMove Edited August 22, 2014 by Señor Ding-Dong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 06:15 PM) Not surprised one bit its Sanchez getting the call. Johnson is shutdown, Semien has struggled at Charlotte ( has hit better July/Aug) and Saladino is done for the year so who else would it be? Here are the Charlotte stats for your reference: Semien: .809 OPS, 123 wRC+ Sanchez: .761 OPS, 110 wRC+ Johnson: .684 OPS, 87 wRC+ Obviously these guys do other things than simply hit, but Semien has been by far the best with the bat. If he's struggling, then I'm not sure how to describe the other two guys' performance. And in all seriousness, he was never really struggling either, he was just getting really unlucky. His BABIP is finally getting back to normal, but he's still a good 25 to 35 points off his career mark. For comparison purposes, it's currently 68 points worse than Sanchez's. I still don't know why a decent amount of posters sleep on Semien. He's shown significantly more power and a much better ability to draw walks than Sanchez ever has. I get the age difference, but that only goes so far when we're talking about a polished hitter who doesn't project to add much power. I think some people may be overvaluing Sanchez's hit tool and defense at 2B. Obviously great tools to have, but I don't think they outweigh what Marcus brings to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) Beckham's defense has been poor the last couple years. Borchard never did what Beckham did right after being called up. So the problem was that Gordon was initially very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 06:42 PM) What? Micah is an exciting young player who hit .294 in AAA while playing through hamstring issues. Let him heal this offseason and get ready to battle for 2B Actually I agree but to decree Johnson as the starting 2B for 2015 is the equivalent of pre-mature ejaculation. As long Alexei is at SS, Johnson has very stiff competetition from Sanchez and Semien for starting at 2B in 2015. I would not rule out the idea of Johnson being shifted to the outfield either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 08:14 PM) Actually I agree but to decree Johnson as the starting 2B for 2015 is the equivalent of pre-mature ejaculation. As long Alexei is at SS, Johnson has very stiff competetition from Sanchez and Semien for starting at 2B in 2015. I would not rule out the idea of Johnson being shifted to the outfield either. Like a day ago the Sox said they see Micah as a long term 2b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:14 PM) Actually I agree but to decree Johnson as the starting 2B for 2015 is the equivalent of pre-mature ejaculation. As long Alexei is at SS, Johnson has very stiff competetition from Sanchez and Semien for starting at 2B in 2015. I would not rule out the idea of Johnson being shifted to the outfield either. I think they already said Johnson will stay at 2B. I imagine he will be starting by August 1st, 2015 if he doesn't completely tank or get injured next year which is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 06:00 PM) Man, I'm disappointed that the Sox seem to have Sanchez and Micah ahead of Marcus on their future board. I still think Semien will be the best of the bunch. Whoever plays best will get the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) Here are the Charlotte stats for your reference: Semien: .809 OPS, 123 wRC+ Sanchez: .761 OPS, 110 wRC+ Johnson: .684 OPS, 87 wRC+ Obviously these guys do other things than simply hit, but Semien has been by far the best with the bat. If he's struggling, then I'm not sure how to describe the other two guys' performance. And in all seriousness, he was never really struggling either, he was just getting really unlucky. His BABIP is finally getting back to normal, but he's still a good 25 to 35 points off his career mark. For comparison purposes, it's currently 68 points worse than Sanchez's. I still don't know why a decent amount of posters sleep on Semien. He's shown significantly more power and a much better ability to draw walks than Sanchez ever has. I get the age difference, but that only goes so far when we're talking about a polished hitter who doesn't project to add much power. I think some people may be overvaluing Sanchez's hit tool and defense at 2B. Obviously great tools to have, but I don't think they outweigh what Marcus brings to the table. Thanks for posting the numbers. I'm stuck between Sanchez and Semien. Semien has a bit more power and draws walks but Sanchez seems to hit for better average , at least this year anyway and seems to be a bit better at base stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 06:15 PM) Not surprised one bit its Sanchez getting the call. Johnson is shutdown, Semien has struggled at Charlotte Semien has a better OBP and better OPS than Sanchez this (and every) year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:17 PM) I think they already said Johnson will stay at 2B. I imagine he will be starting by August 1st, 2015 if he doesn't completely tank or get injured next year which is possible I think a lot depends on how Sanchez and Semien handle their call ups. If one or the other plays their way into the position then Johnson is the odd man out and considering his speed the outfield is a possibity. I've been reading stuff on line that hints Johnson could be moved to the outfield because he's just not good at 2nd defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 08:23 PM) Semien has a better OBP and better OPS than Sanchez this (and every) year. Yea I'm not really sure what they are doing with Marcus it's not ideal IMO. I don't trust their evaluation of position players. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ah so thankful I dont have to hear the certainties like " He's going to hit soon" or "He's going to be on the roster for the rest of the year". Thank you Angels....thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Next dominoes Danks and Dunn...wishful thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) Next dominoes Danks and Dunn...wishful thinking Dunn will go. Danks won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) Next dominoes Danks and Dunn...wishful thinking Still think Dunn is gone next 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) Next dominoes Danks and Dunn...wishful thinking I think Dunn and Beckham were in the same boat so I still hold out hope for Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I feel like Billy Haywood when he had to let go of Jerry Johnson. Except Jerry Johnson was supposedly good at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Anyone hear any names in return? I seen Hahn's comments about evaluating but I'd imaging they've been doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think Dunn only goes if the Sox get something intriguing back. After hearing Abreu talk about the influence Dunn has had on him he sounds like a guy who would be helpful to have around the young guys coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 09:18 PM) Anyone hear any names in return? I seen Hahn's comments about evaluating but I'd imaging they've been doing that Teams almost never let those kinds of lists leak because they wouldn't want a prospect who isn't traded to know that their name was on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) Next dominoes Danks and Dunn...wishful thinking It wouldn't surprise me to see Dunn go to the Giants now that it appears Belt may be lost for the rest of the season with a concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Kinda skipped a few pages but, Carlos Sanchez was the call-up. Stated by Hahn. If it was posted than sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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