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Better Future Core: Sox or Cubs?


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The Cubs get all the hype, but I feel pretty good about our core moving into the future as well. So while they get the attention, would you trade our core for all of the Cubs top prospects?

 

White Sox:

Chris Sale

Jose Abreu

Carlos Rodon

Jose Quintana

Avisail Garcia

Adam Eaton

Tim Anderson

Frank Montas

Spencer Adams

 

Cubs:

Kris Bryant

Javy Baez

Anthony Rizzo

Starlin Castro

Jorge Soler

Addison Russell

Arismendy Alcantara

Albert Almora

CJ Edwards

 

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I get the feeling this is a silly conversation to have since the Sox core is already starting to be locked in long term and the Cubs core is still very fluid.

 

Probably 1 or 2 of those guys moved this offseason, in addition to a large expenditure of money.

 

Lets check back in a year or so mmkay?

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QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 08:55 PM)
Posed the same question to Jim Callis. He chose the Cubs.

 

They have some guys who can be really special. We have at least 2 who ARE special. I've always believed one in the hand was worth two in the bush personally.

Rizzo is pretty special. Lefty putting up those numbers is damn valuable. Kris Bryant is pretty much a can't miss prospect. Soler looks really freaking good. Addison Russel and Schwarber look like studs. Not to mention Castro and Baez... The team is freaking stacked with top tier talents. People need to take off their homer glasses.

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QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 09:13 PM)
Rizzo is pretty special. Lefty putting up those numbers is damn valuable. Kris Bryant is pretty much a can't miss prospect. Soler looks really freaking good. Addison Russel and Schwarber look like studs. Not to mention Castro and Baez... The team is freaking stacked with top tier talents. People need to take off their homer glasses.

 

Don't disagree with what you're saying, but they have no pitching. The Sox are at least 3 deep with high quality arms in the rotation with not as great position players, but a set that are already producing in the majors.

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Here's the thing. If you look at it on a player by player basis, it is harder to argue Cubs. First off, you have to cede pitching to the Sox. Period. Sale and Q are already here, and the Cubs have nothing that will even come close. When Smarj was here, at least you could argue that he ranks somewhere in between Q and Sale. Now? No. Then the Sox have Rodon on the farm, with a ceiling as a pitcher, that is just as high as any hitter the Cubs have.

 

Then if you go over to hitters, the Sox have Abreu, who is in the majors, and hitting like an MVP already. At best, you MIGHT have one of their hitters end up being as good as Abreu. Maybe. Avi probably ranks towards the end of the Cubs big four hitters in terms of ceiling.

 

When you put the package together of what the Sox have here already, and the HUGE advantage they have in cheap pitching, I'm not sure you can say the Cubs have the edge.

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Right now the white sox have easily the best two on the list, with sale being a top pitcher in the league and abreu being a beast. After that the cubs have more talent on paper. While they may have a few soon to be all stars on the list, the lack of pitching really does hurt them a little. If the cubs didnt finish strong last year they would have had the third pick and if they got rodon i would easily give it to them, however that didn't happen. I really want to say its almost a tie, however since i know i am biased towards the white sox, i have to give the cubs a slight edge.

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Plus we're gonna add some type of positional badass this winter and maybe a pitcher too. Don't you think Hahn is going to add at least 1 more young, MLB-ready core piece this offseason?

 

+1 more for the sox soon.

 

 

We have the best pitcher and hitter in the game, arguably. Cubs have what?

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Did Rizzo die? People seem to forget he is a legit hitter who is in the majors... He is a legit lefty hitter. Close to the value Abreu brings while on a dirt cheap contract. Castro has a cheap contract. Another player being completely ignored is Arrieta. Soler, Baez, Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, Alcantara... Cubs talent is just filthy. They have tons of cost controller talent. Baez and Soler have low bust probably as far as prospects go. I expect at least one to be a star.

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QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:16 PM)
Did Rizzo die? People seem to forget he is a legit hitter who is in the majors... He is a legit lefty hitter. Close to the value Abreu brings while on a dirt cheap contract. Castro has a cheap contract. Another player being completely ignored is Arrieta. Soler, Baez, Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, Alcantara... Cubs talent is just filthy. They have tons of cost controller talent. Baez and Soler have low bust probably as far as prospects go. I expect at least one to be a star.

 

All of the Sox talent is cost controlled.

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I think some of you are sleeping on Arrieta, Wada, and Hendricks. I think 2 of those 3 could turn out to be quality starters, and all should be very controllable for the foreseeable future. God forbids if they are able to turn Jacob Turner around.

 

Cubs also have a closer who has a chance to be electric in Hector Rondon, who throw 98 mph and has been dominant for the past two months.

 

At the end of the day, I think in terms of potential, it's definitely the Cubs. But potential is a dangerous word in sports. The Sox's "core" is more proven at this point

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:24 PM)
I think some of you are sleeping on Arrieta, Wada, and Hendricks. I think 2 of those 3 could turn out to be quality starters, and all should be very controllable for the foreseeable future. God forbids if they are able to turn Jacob Turner around.

 

Cubs also have a closer who has a chance to be electric in Hector Rondon, who throw 98 mph and has been dominant for the past two months.

 

At the end of the day, I think in terms of potential, it's definitely the Cubs. But potential is a dangerous word in sports. The Sox's "core" is more proven at this point

 

The Sox have both Sale and Q. Rodon has a ceiling of being another Chris Sale. The Cubs have nothing in pitching that approaches that.

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