Better Future Core: Sox or Cubs?

[thxfrthmmrs]

Unless you're willing to bat Gillaspie 3rd, you have to convince Robin it's ok to have back to back lefties. Good luck.

 

I think we will see Semien getting a lot of looks at #2 in September. If he gets on base at the rate he did in Tripe A, he will be an ideal fit.

 

I'd like to see

 

Eaton

Semien

Abreu

Gillaspie

Garcia

Dunn

Ramirez

Flowers

Sanchez

Edited August 29, 2014 by thxfrthmmrs

[thxfrthmmrs]

This is how I would describe a "run producer" as well. I still prefer the term "good hitter."

 

Also, against RHP - which is all I've ever advocated using him against - his wRC+ is 123. You prefer higher, but that'd be right around 51st in the majors. It'd be nice to have someone better hitting cleanup, or to add another big bat, but if he's hitting 5th or 6th for you against righties, you can still have a pretty good lineup.

 

Unless he's brought back at a insanely good deal next year, something around $5 mil. Paying a number 6 hitter who can neither play defense nor hit lefties any more than that would be a bad deal.

 

Also, we do not have a lot position player who are "good hitters" that you can put at the cleanup spot. Deploying a DH who's only an "average hitter" would put more pressure on Hahn to add a catcher or LF who's also a great hitter, which would be more expensive.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Unless you're willing to bat Gillaspie 3rd, you have to convince Robin it's ok to have back to back lefties. Good luck.

 

 

What happens is Micah Johnson is the 2nd baseman next year though? Isn't Eaton-Micah your 1-2? They are both LHH. The handedness thing up there makes absolutely no sense.

[witesoxfan]

Unless he's brought back at a insanely good deal next year, something around $5 mil. Paying a number 6 hitter who can neither play defense nor hit lefties any more than that would be a bad deal.

 

Also, we do not have a lot position player who are "good hitters" that you can put at the cleanup spot. Deploying a DH who's only an "average hitter" would put more pressure on Hahn to add a catcher or LF who's also a great hitter, which would be more expensive.

 

I want to stress again that I'm not advocating bringing Dunn back as anything more than a last resort. If they fail to upgrade the lineup prior to about January 15th, and Dunn is still hanging out there, then I have no problem with them bringing him back, but at the same time, I'd almost rather see them try and fill that role with guys already in the organization. I'd say get Wilkins some reps in the outfield to see if he shows any competency and get Phegley some reps at 1B.

[LDF]

Gillaspie has the 3rd best OPB and 2nd best SLG on the team. There is no excuse for him batting lower than 4th, at least not against a righty starter. I don't care if that means batting Abreu 4th, batting Gillaspie 4th, or batting two lefties consecutively, but there has to be some way to bat him up higher in the order.

 

Oh, and Alexei should never bat 2nd. His slash line screams out #6 hitter.

 

I am with Balta on his assessment. Conor does not have power and he can work the count, hence the

perfect #2 hitter.

 

Alexia should be a 4 or 5 hitter. question for you stat guys, does his "slash line" say so. if slash line

is the right stat to use.

 

 

[LDF]

I think we will see Semien getting a lot of looks at #2 in September. If he gets on base at the rate he did in Tripe A, he will be an ideal fit.

 

I'd like to see

 

Eaton

Semien

Abreu

Gillaspie

Garcia

Dunn

Ramirez

Flowers

Sanchez

 

I still think Avi should be switch with Aelxia place. why throw him to the heat right away.

[Eminor3rd]

I am with Balta on his assessment. Conor does not have power and he can work the count, hence the

perfect #2 hitter.

 

Alexia should be a 4 or 5 hitter. question for you stat guys, does his "slash line" say so. if slash line

is the right stat to use.

 

There's evidence that the #5 hole is a great place for a high contact hitter with some propensity for doubles. I think that Alexei, at his best, is a great candidate for #5.

 

From #4 though, I want more dingers. Most studies point to #4 being an even more important position for an all-around offensive threat than people think -- most people's idea of a perfect #3 hitter is usually a better #4 hitter. IMO, this lineup is best with Abreu at #4 and a lefty at #3. Assuming Eaton (L) at leadoff, that works out perfectly as Adam Dunn, with Conor at #5, thus sandwiching Abreu with Lefties and use Connor's "high contact and doubles" really well. In this scenario, I like Ramirez at #2 because of his right handed bat, though ideally we'd like a guy that gets on base more.

 

L Eaton

R Ramirez

L Dunn

R Abreu

L Gillaspie

?

?

?

?

 

[LDF]

There's evidence that the #5 hole is a great place for a high contact hitter with some propensity for doubles. I think that Alexei, at his best, is a great candidate for #5.

 

From #4 though, I want more dingers. Most studies point to #4 being an even more important position for an all-around offensive threat than people think -- most people's idea of a perfect #3 hitter is usually a better #4 hitter. IMO, this lineup is best with Abreu at #4 and a lefty at #3. Assuming Eaton (L) at leadoff, that works out perfectly as Adam Dunn, with Conor at #5, thus sandwiching Abreu with Lefties and use Connor's "high contact and doubles" really well. In this scenario, I like Ramirez at #2 because of his right handed bat, though ideally we'd like a guy that gets on base more.

 

L Eaton

R Ramirez

L Dunn

R Abreu

L Gillaspie

?

?

?

?

 

a great post, hard to argue with, however I will go for my piece of mind. Ramirez and Gillaspie switch. Ramirez

is and may be the better hitter with power being the value point.

 

with that, that is my only point. I can argue with the right left and your opinion.

 

[Eminor3rd]

a great post, hard to argue with, however I will go for my piece of mind. Ramirez and Gillaspie switch. Ramirez

is and may be the better hitter with power being the value point.

 

with that, that is my only point. I can argue with the right left and your opinion.

 

Yeah, for sure, makes sense. I am personally just really, really into alternating handedness because of how good specialist relievers are these days. But that's just my opinion and I don't have a ton of evidence to suggest it's as important as I feel it is. Also, if we had a righty leadoff guy, I'd totally be on board with Gillaspie at #2.

[LDF]

Yeah, for sure, makes sense. I am personally just really, really into alternating handedness because of how good specialist relievers are these days. But that's just my opinion and I don't have a ton of evidence to suggest it's as important as I feel it is. Also, if we had a righty leadoff guy, I'd totally be on board with Gillaspie at #2.

 

this was most enjoyable discussion. I am otta here for now.

 

peace

[ron883]

soler has been a freaking monster since being called up.

[Chicago White Sox]

There's evidence that the #5 hole is a great place for a high contact hitter with some propensity for doubles. I think that Alexei, at his best, is a great candidate for #5.

 

From #4 though, I want more dingers. Most studies point to #4 being an even more important position for an all-around offensive threat than people think -- most people's idea of a perfect #3 hitter is usually a better #4 hitter. IMO, this lineup is best with Abreu at #4 and a lefty at #3. Assuming Eaton (L) at leadoff, that works out perfectly as Adam Dunn, with Conor at #5, thus sandwiching Abreu with Lefties and use Connor's "high contact and doubles" really well. In this scenario, I like Ramirez at #2 because of his right handed bat, though ideally we'd like a guy that gets on base more.

 

L Eaton

R Ramirez

L Dunn

R Abreu

L Gillaspie

?

?

?

?

This is why I love the idea of bringing in Victor Martinez.

 

1. Eaton

2. Semien

3. Martinez

4. Abreu

 

That has the potential to be a perfectly constructed 1-4 and would be put an insane amount of men on-base before Abreu.