Boopa1219 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 A thread about the off season ahead the upcoming 2015 season. We already have a report that Victor Martinez is the team's top target, and the team must rebuild the bullpen. So what do you want accomplished this off season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 01:43 AM) A thread about the off season ahead the upcoming 2015 season. We already have a report that Victor Martinez is the team's top target, and the team must rebuild the bullpen. So what do you want accomplished this off season? I don't want us signing old players coming off career years (like Victor Martinez). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 I agree with you but the team desperately needs a left handed bat (Martinez is a switch hitter) in the middle of the order between Abreu and Garcia. I woukd sign Martinez but it has to be to a reasonable, short term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If the Sox are going after VMart, it is a sign they expect to contend next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 08:26 AM) I agree with you but the team desperately needs a left handed bat (Martinez is a switch hitter) in the middle of the order between Abreu and Garcia. I woukd sign Martinez but it has to be to a reasonable, short term contract. I am not going to respond to the VM interest. I agree about needing a bat, esp a LH bat, but I want to see the int'l fa's signed. then I guess I will be able to see that the sox need. the other thing I am thinking, with the 3 mi getting ready to contribute, is 1 of them going to move to the OF or where to put him? this is not what I want but what the team has now. again, what direction will the sox / Hahn go? cat - flowers 1b - Jose A ss - Aelxia 3b - conor rf - Avi cf - Eaton lf - DV 2b - Sanchez ??? where to put Semien, Micah. how bout trading, DV 1 of the left over of the Semien or Micah? if not do the sox move DV to the dh role and see if Semien or Micah can handle LF? I know 1 thing. this summer is going to be fun when the sox need to address the above questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 How this lineup look like Eaton Johnson Abreu Martinez Garcia Ramirez Gillespie Morse Phegley flowers free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) How this lineup look like Eaton Johnson Abreu Martinez Garcia Ramirez Gillespie Morse Phegley flowers free agent at this time all mock lineup is all subjective, so there is no right or wrong. I will be making one during the summer. but remember, no matter how the sox finish, the future is starting to look great. the cliché of "wait till next yr" has a great meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If I'm Hahn I have early targets a power bat, a veteran utility, a RHS, and two relievers (one lefty, one righty), and secure a top 10 protected pick I'd be going after Martinez on a 2-3 year deal for 30-45 million, Justin Masterson on a one year deal with options for '16 and '17, then k-Rod or Chris Perez to close, and Breslow from Boston C: Flowers, Phegley 1B: Abreu, Wilkins 2B: Micah Johnson 3B: Gillaspie SS: Alexei, Semein CF: Eaton LF: Viciedo, RF: Garcia DH: Martinez Rotation: Sale, Quintana, Masterson, Danks (until traded), Rodon Pen: Surkamp, Noesi, Petricka, Webb, Jones, Lindstrom, Putnam, Breslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Cabrera from TOR is a name that comes to mind for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 02:00 AM) I don't want us signing old players coming off career years (like Victor Martinez). Couldn't agree more. I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt considering it's a Levine report. Edited August 30, 2014 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) Couldn't agree more. I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt considering this is a Levine report. Agreed. You sign him, then what was your reasoning for letting AJ go? Not saying that wasn't the right decision(in fact, it was) and this would be the same one. The time to get Victor was his last go around IMO. Let the Red Sox bid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) Agreed. You sign him, then what was your reasoning for letting AJ go? Not saying that wasn't the right decision(in fact, it was) and this would be the same one. The time to get Victor was his last go around IMO. Let the Red Sox bid for him. We need too protect abreu hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) Agreed. You sign him, then what was your reasoning for letting AJ go? Not saying that wasn't the right decision(in fact, it was) and this would be the same one. The time to get Victor was his last go around IMO. Let the Red Sox bid for him. Victor Martinez isn't a catcher any more, he's a DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 In a perfect world, baseball clubs will find the perfect right / left hitting lineup. the players to choose from, what will be available, is not all that enticing. I see the sox having to fill those empty holes by picking a player who can produce rather than having perfect right / left hitting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) In a perfect world, baseball clubs will find the perfect right / left hitting lineup. the players to choose from, what will be available, is not all that enticing. I see the sox having to fill those empty holes by picking a player who can produce rather than having perfect right / left hitting lineup. Their manager will respond by forcing whatever players they acquire into the closest thing he can find to a left/right lineup. This should be expected when acquiring players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:48 AM) Victor Martinez isn't a catcher any more, he's a DH. Not to mention is a much better hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) We need too protect abreu hello. No one said differently hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:48 AM) Victor Martinez isn't a catcher any more, he's a DH. I understand. But the point I was making is, eventually your bat speed goes, your strength and your eye. I'm not interested in guys who just had a career year at 34 or 35 and are up for a contract unless they're coming for cheap. For Victor, the absolute most I would pay is 2 years - 16 million. He won't sign for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) I understand. But the point I was making is, eventually your bat speed goes, your strength and your eye. I'm not interested in guys who just had a career year at 34 or 35 and are up for a contract unless they're coming for cheap. For Victor, the absolute most I would pay is 2 years - 16 million. He won't sign for that. Unless that is $16 million per year, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) We need too protect abreu hello. I rather explore another avenue or trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Ldf & Peavy, are you guys roommates in Senegal or something; where do you boys live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I would love to see Luke Gregerson and Andrew Miller brought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1dog Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 For those who want VM, please give me a list of 36 year old guys that just signed big contracts and their subsequent stats. It just never seems like it's worth it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (1dog @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 03:04 PM) For those who want VM, please give me a list of 36 year old guys that just signed big contracts and their subsequent stats. It just never seems like it's worth it to me. As a 35 year old, Paul Konerko signed for 3/$37.5. During that contract, he put up 2.8 fWAR, worth about $15 million. He was a solid player in the first 1.5 seasons of that deal. I think that's a great example of what is required for this deal to work. It's likely to overpay the guy overall and really hurt in years 2+ but you need to be close enough in 2015 that he puts you over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 06:01 PM) Ldf & Peavy, are you guys roommates in Senegal or something; where do you boys live? Bayou country with a s*** load of gators and shrimp and most aggressive snakes. Louisiana. I miss my chi pizza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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