ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Awful new video of what Ray Rice actually did in the elevator leaked today. Disclaimer: It's brutal. He needs to be suspended for a lot longer after witnessing this http://m.tmz.com/videos/0-ekaflcqq/ Edited September 8, 2014 by ChiSox_Sonix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Espn, of all networks, calling this new video the biggest black eye in the history if the league (poor choice of words but for them to criticize anything NFL like that is huge). Rice should be banned at least for the year, if not longer. Can't believe the nfl had thus video before and decided on two games. Goodell did not want to wake up to this this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just think about the press conference they had when she apologized over and over. and the countless times the Baltimore organization has gone out of its way to make sure everyone knows that Rice is a great guy. Nice job Goodell. Good job, good effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's a very slight chance of course, but I could imagine a scenario where Goodell is forced to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) Just think about the press conference they had when she apologized over and over. and the countless times the Baltimore organization has gone out of its way to make sure everyone knows that Rice is a great guy. Nice job Goodell. Good job, good effort This is the worst part about it IMO. The team had a press conference where she apologized for her "role" in the incident. Are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:39 AM) This is the worst part about it IMO. The team had a press conference where she apologized for her "role" in the incident. Are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) This is the worst part about it IMO. The team had a press conference where she apologized for her "role" in the incident. Are you kidding me? This is pretty common stuff in the event of an abusive relationship, btw. The team and the league are the ones who are supposed to be smarter than that and realize how that will come off to the rest of the world. The commissioner shouldn't have met with her regarding the punishment and citing her statements in why he came to his conclusion regarding the suspension length was a clear statement that the league took no steps to understand domestic violence prior to making their call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:41 AM) i am so very sorry i placed my face in front of his fist at that time. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 02:20 PM) Awful new video of what Ray Rice actually did in the elevator leaked today. Disclaimer: It's brutal. He needs to be suspended for a lot longer after witnessing this http://m.tmz.com/videos/0-ekaflcqq/ Ugh, that makes me nauseous. Just awful awful awful stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Roger Goodell is a f***ing joke. I legitimately hate everything about the NFL other than the actual football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) Awful new video of what Ray Rice actually did in the elevator leaked today. Disclaimer: It's brutal. He needs to be suspended for a lot longer after witnessing this http://m.tmz.com/videos/0-ekaflcqq/ Talk about getting knocked out...Jesus. Yeah, he should be suspended for a longer period than 2 games, at least that times 4. Edited September 8, 2014 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 02:39 PM) This is the worst part about it IMO. The team had a press conference where she apologized for her "role" in the incident. Are you kidding me? I wonder if she even remembers it. How terrible would it be if she was fed these ideas that she was at fault. Like Balta says, common. But worse, with the league going along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 If the victim was Peyton Manning on the playing field, he probably gets more than 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:37 AM) It's a very slight chance of course, but I could imagine a scenario where Goodell is forced to resign. Come on, let's have some perspective here. Rice is a terrible human being and he did a terrible thing, but he didn't murder someone. He didn't get his 6th DUI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 11:02 AM) Come on, let's have some perspective here. Rice is a terrible human being and he did a terrible thing, but he didn't murder someone. He didn't get his 6th DUI. If Goodell is lying about not having the seen the video, then yes, we could see a situation where there is pressure on him to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 10:05 AM) If Goodell is lying about not having the seen the video, then yes, we could see a situation where there is pressure on him to resign. Pressure from who? You think he or the owners give a s*** about what the fans think? He made (and makes) the owners a s*** ton of money. He's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I almost think it's worse that he has seen it. Since they already had all evidence, there is no sudden escalation they can take. There should be more accountability for this, and I don't see how they can do that with their current set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't see how this video changes everything. We already knew Rice knocked her out, to have some new reactions is childish. The suspension was sickeningly short before, and it remains sickenly short now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) I don't see how this video changes everything. We already knew Rice knocked her out, to have some new reactions is childish. The suspension was sickeningly short before, and it remains sickenly short now. There was the chance (albeit slim) that she was being incredibly violent with him before we saw the video. That isn't the case after watching it so having a new reaction to the video isn't childish at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 08:13 AM) I don't see how this video changes everything. We already knew Rice knocked her out, to have some new reactions is childish. The suspension was sickeningly short before, and it remains sickenly short now. I think human is a better phrase. I knew there was a video, and I also assumed he must have whacked her pretty good to leave her unconscious, but to see him just knock her the f*** out like that really adds an additional layer of disgust to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) I don't see how this video changes everything. We already knew Rice knocked her out, to have some new reactions is childish. The suspension was sickeningly short before, and it remains sickenly short now. Well, all the hit job pieces about women "provoking it", and then to see how unprovoked it was. It doesn't make it right if she was hitting him like Solange in the elevator, but it certainly looks so much worse when it was a completely out of nowhere, incredible force. And then kicking her to get up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Wait, you guys mean to tell me you expected the Rice video to be something more benign than that? We knew he knocked her unconscious. Yes it's a bit shocking to see the actually violence, but this is exactly what I thought happened in the elevator. Still shoud have been a longer suspension based on the first video. My guess is goddell will use the new video as a reason to correct his mistake, which is good, I just can't believe that anyone would have expected the video to have shown anything different based on what we already knew (ie his wife being colmpletely knocked out cold by a punch.) Don't get me wrong, rice is a huge scumbag, I guess I'm just surprised that so many people thought the elevator video would show something different and are now shocked by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 10:23 AM) Wait, you guys mean to tell me you expected the Rice video to be something more benign than that? We knew he knocked her unconscious. Yes it's a bit shocking to see the actually violence, but this is exactly what I thought happened in the elevator. Still shoud have been a longer suspension based on the first video. My guess is goddell will use the new video as a reason to correct his mistake, which is good, I just can't believe that anyone would have expected the video to have shown anything different based on what we already knew (ie his wife being colmpletely knocked out cold by a punch.) Don't get me wrong, rice is a huge scumbag, I guess I'm just surprised that so many people thought the elevator video would show something different and are now shocked by this. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 10:07 AM) Pressure from who? You think he or the owners give a s*** about what the fans think? He made (and makes) the owners a s*** ton of money. He's not going anywhere. The extreme pressure before this video was ever released did the impossible: it got Roger Goodell to publicly apologize and look weak. I fully expect the outrage to be 10x what it was before now that the video is out. If the right people are loud enough for long enough to keep this in the headlines (and the nfl is powerless to act swiftly) than more people in power for the nfl will begin to care. QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 10:23 AM) Wait, you guys mean to tell me you expected the Rice video to be something more benign than that? We knew he knocked her unconscious. Yes it's a bit shocking to see the actually violence, but this is exactly what I thought happened in the elevator. Still shoud have been a longer suspension based on the first video. My guess is goddell will use the new video as a reason to correct his mistake, which is good, I just can't believe that anyone would have expected the video to have shown anything different based on what we already knew (ie his wife being colmpletely knocked out cold by a punch.) Don't get me wrong, rice is a huge scumbag, I guess I'm just surprised that so many people thought the elevator video would show something different and are now shocked by this. It's simple: people are emotional. Seeing it happen is a lot different than imagining it. Also the nfl media machine's message before this release was loud and clear: if you saw the whole video than you'd understand why Rice only got two games. It was easy to believe for a lot of people without evidence otherwise. That changed today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The NFL is also doing a 180 on having seen the full video before deciding on the suspension. Someone Is Lying About Whether The NFL Saw The Ray Rice Tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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