greg775 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) He will be allowed to play again. Will anyone sign him will be the question. I guess the Vick thing showed anything is possible. I think it'd be very unwise for an owner/GM to employ Ray Rice. I say no team will be dumb enough to sign a person like Ray Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) I guess the Vick thing showed anything is possible. I think it'd be very unwise for an owner/GM to employ Ray Rice. I say no team will be dumb enough to sign a person like Ray Rice. I say you very much underestimate teams. There are many players in the NFL that have been arrested for domestic violence, and many of them continue to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 03:46 PM) I say you very much underestimate teams. There are many players in the NFL that have been arrested for domestic violence, and many of them continue to play I will be disappointed, but not the least bit surprised when it happens to Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 More lies. "Your story was ambiguous." Yet sources all over are saying Rice told him everything that happened, there was no ambiguity. Which, BTW, if there was ambiguity, wouldn't you go find the tape to clear things up? What's the next lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) I will be disappointed, but not the least bit surprised when it happens to Rice. I wont be. I wanted the guy properly punished, but not exiled for the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 http://mashable.com/2014/09/12/nfl-ravens-...om-Tw-main-link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-vikin...-205407718.html Well I have to imagine that anything involving children being harmed is going to result in a pretty significant suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/break....html?track=rss ormer Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice will appeal his indefinite suspension, but reportedly is asking for commissioner Roger Goodell to recuse himself from the review. Goodell, who said Rice's version of events was "ambiguous" when the parties met prior to an initial suspension, turned over the New Orleans Saints bounty-related suspensions to former commissioner Paul Tagliabue. The league reversed course banned Rice indefinitely last week, the same day the Ravens released Rice as video surfaced showing him punching and knocking out his then-fiancee, Janay, in February at an Atlantic City hotel. Janay Rice blasted media for releasing the video. She and Rice were married and have actively engaged in counseling, Ray Rice told media in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't have a problem with this going through the normal due process route for NFL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Nobody will sign Ray Rice because he is not good enough to be worth the headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 From Outside the Lines: Rice case: purposeful misdirection by team, scant investigation by NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 05:12 PM) From Outside the Lines: Rice case: purposeful misdirection by team, scant investigation by NFL Great article. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I guess this fits best in this thread. A former NFL executive said teams did not discipline players in "hundreds and hundreds" of domestic violence incidents during his 30 years in the league, and said he now regrets his role in the failure to take action. "I made a mistake,'' Jerry Angelo told USA TODAY Sports. "I was human. I was part of it. I'm not proud of it.'' Angelo, who was general manager of the Chicago Bears from 2001 to 2011 and has been out of the league since, said his typical approach after learning of a player's involvement in a domestic violence case was to inquire, "OK, is everybody OK? Yeah. How are they doing? Good. And then we'd just move on. We'd move on.'' "We knew it was wrong,'' Angelo said. "…For whatever reason, it just kind of got glossed over. I'm no psychiatrist, so I can't really get into what that part of it is. I'm just telling you how I was. I've got to look at myself first. And I was part of that, but I didn't stand alone.'' The Bears released a statement later Thursday denying any knowledge of Angelo's assertions. "We were surprised by Jerry's comments and do not know what he is referring to," the statement read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The NFL is closing their ranks against Angelo, the Bears and other people that worked with him are all denying what he said. They arent a fan of this whistleblower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Captain Meatball Mike Ditka called Angelo's comments "gutless." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I will at least say good for Angelo for coming clean. That being said, he will never work in professional football again after what he just said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 If the NFL had any understanding or handle of the situation, I don't think people would much care if the response was "We used to think that domestic violence issues were a private matter left to the police, now we understand our position in American culture and as role models and are dedicated to leading the charge against domestic violence" ... but because I'm not sure the NFL really understands what wrong is, they'll probably just try to cover it up and make it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 07:28 AM) I will at least say good for Angelo for coming clean. That being said, he will never work in professional football again after what he just said. Is this really news though? I mean, isn't this what we already knew? We knew there were hundreds of incidences of this, and we knew they weren't getting suspended for it...so he's just verbalizing what the numbers would show was happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 07:35 AM) If the NFL had any understanding or handle of the situation, I don't think people would much care if the response was "We used to think that domestic violence issues were a private matter left to the police, now we understand our position in American culture and as role models and are dedicated to leading the charge against domestic violence" ... but because I'm not sure the NFL really understands what wrong is, they'll probably just try to cover it up and make it worse. Yeah, that is clearly something that shows their understanding is evolving. I agree. There has got to be some other concern on their part though. I refuse to believe they aren't wise enough to say something as obvious as that, in this day and age of damage control. My guess is they are concerned about the data they already have and the effect on their players and League if they make certain statements like this and what it means for them moving forward. Bottom line is, there is so much domestic violence and other stupid criminality occurring by players and other NFL employees that I am not sure they really can be leading the charge all the time. That consumes a lot of resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) Is this really news though? I mean, isn't this what we already knew? We knew there were hundreds of incidences of this, and we knew they weren't getting suspended for it...so he's just verbalizing what the numbers would show was happening. It is news because he has been the only member of management I have seen from the NFL who has been honest about what happened in the past. Everyone else is either pretending it didn't happen, or that NOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 08:08 AM) Captain Meatball Mike Ditka called Angelo's comments "gutless." Everytime Ditka opens his mouth I dislike him more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 09:51 AM) Everytime Ditka opens his mouth I dislike him more and more. He really just needs to go away forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 09:40 AM) It is news because he has been the only member of management I have seen from the NFL who has been honest about what happened in the past. Everyone else is either pretending it didn't happen, or that NOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH! Yeah, an actual admission is different from "what we all know" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 And now Angelo is backtracking... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/30358515-41...ml#.VDf0ZeewEXw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) And now Angelo is backtracking... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/30358515-41...ml#.VDf0ZeewEXw I don't see any backtracking in that article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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