Do you think Petricka is the closer of the future?

[TheFutureIsNear]

Pretty straight forward....and by future I mean beyond next year.

[2nd_city_saint787]

It's a real interesting question and one that's really tough to answer.

 

I think if the plan is to win in 2015 I'd probably add a guy like Janssen or Robertson if he somehow doesn't get resigned. If they have eyes on 2016 as a more realistic time to win then I'd have no probably going with Petricka for a full year.

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

I don't think he is. I think Montas has a better chance of being the closer-of-the-future then Petricka. And first and formost, I am all for Montas trying to make it to the MLB in a starting role.

[caulfield12]

Bassit's another guy with a live arm...I'm sure he will get a look in the pen (if he's not the 5th starter), because he has good stuff, can be a long man and provides them some versatility.

 

That said, Petricka's your guy for right now, Putnam and Guerra in set-up, Webb as the big question mark, along with the left-handed component/s.

[Heads22]

Closer, no.

 

Set-up, completely yes.

[RockRaines]

No. And I dont think the org does either. However its nice to have a few late inning options.

[SoxAce]

Closer, no.

 

Set-up, completely yes.

Agreed 99.999%

[LDF]

I don't think he is. I think Montas has a better chance of being the closer-of-the-future then Petricka. And first and formost, I am all for Montas trying to make it to the MLB in a starting role.

 

you know, the sox have some really live arms coming up and the farm systems should starting to produce

some really interesting prospects. Montas has a nice profile. I also think that it going to be really interesting

seeing how all the prospect will develop.

 

It's a real interesting question and one that's really tough to answer.

 

I think if the plan is to win in 2015 I'd probably add a guy like Janssen or Robertson if he somehow doesn't get resigned. If they have eyes on 2016 as a more realistic time to win then I'd have no probably going with Petricka for a full year.

 

I think the sox need a stopgap player to step in and stabilize the pen. I think that will be done getting

that player thru fa.

 

[GreenSox]

He should be fine as closer.

The Sox do need 2 high-end bullpen arms for real leverage situations and to take the pressure off of buys like Guerra, Putnam and Petricka.

[RockRaines]

He should be fine as closer.

The Sox do need 2 high-end bullpen arms for real leverage situations and to take the pressure off of buys like Guerra, Putnam and Petricka.

I'd be shocked if they didnt add 2 arms to the pen. SHOCKED.

[caulfield12]

you know, the sox have some really live arms coming up and the farm systems should starting to produce

some really interesting prospects. Montas has a nice profile. I also think that it going to be really interesting

seeing how all the prospect will develop.

 

 

 

I think the sox need a stopgap player to step in and stabilize the pen. I think that will be done getting

that player thru fa.

 

 

 

Paying stopgap guys like Robertson, Janssen, Soriano (can't even remember if he's avail), Rodney, Jim Johnson, Frieri, League, K-Rod, etc., just means you're going to be paying some of them $8-12 million per season in 2015 for what purpose?

 

Unless you address the starting rotation and add 2 bats, there's no way to compete anyway.

 

 

The whole idea of flipping guys like Belisario, Boggs, Paulino, Cleto, etc., at the beginning of the year was fine in principle, but it didn't quite work out in the end, did it?

 

As the season ends, the guys who built up some value (Noesi, Putnam, Guerra) are ones that you kind of need next year, and their career history is going to limit their history until they prove they can sustain that level of success for multiple seasons, at least through next June/July.

[RockRaines]

Paying stopgap guys like Robertson, Janssen, Soriano (can't even remember if he's avail), Rodney, Jim Johnson, Frieri, League, K-Rod, etc., just means you're going to be paying some of them $8-12 million per season in 2015 for what purpose?

 

Unless you address the starting rotation and add 2 bats, there's no way to compete anyway.

 

 

The whole idea of flipping guys like Belisario, Boggs, Paulino, Cleto, etc., at the beginning of the year was fine in principle, but it didn't quite work out in the end, did it?

 

As the season ends, the guys who built up some value (Noesi, Putnam, Guerra) are ones that you kind of need next year, and their career history is going to limit their history until they prove they can sustain that level of success for multiple seasons, at least through next June/July.

IMO, I believe we can contend with a better pen, one good arm in the rotation and maybe one solid bat (not middle of the order).

[chitownsportsfan]

IMO, I believe we can contend with a better pen, one good arm in the rotation and maybe one solid bat (not middle of the order).

 

change that to two bats and I agree.

 

Tall order in one offseason. If Avi takes a big leap forward and Jose doesn't regress too badly OK maybe one but ideally they better production from at least LF and 2B and probably C and one of DH/1B. Where that comes from who knows and Sanchez may be the answer but not everything is going to break right and I don't think the Sox can expect to contend with all of Sanchez/Semian, Viciedo and Flowers in next years opening day lineup.

[RockRaines]

change that to two bats and I agree.

 

Tall order in one offseason. If Avi takes a big leap forward and Jose doesn't regress too badly OK maybe one but ideally they better production from at least LF and 2B and probably C and one of DH/1B. Where that comes from who knows and Sanchez may be the answer but not everything is going to break right and I don't think the Sox can expect to contend with all of Sanchez/Semian, Viciedo and Flowers in next years opening day lineup.

I believe they think one other good pitcher with Sale and Q as well as a reliable pen could contend right now. One bat and it could win. Mind you thats with a fully healthy squad.

 

IMO they need a really good LH hitter. Wilkins is NOT the answer

[southsider2k5]

It will be really interesting to see what Detroit does to finish this season, and then how the react to it in the off season.

[caulfield12]

And Eaton's going to have to be on the field for 145-150 games, at least.

 

Garcia's got to be a legit, middle of the order, run-producing bat who hits 18-24 homers...like an Alex Rios, but the good version.

 

Survive the expected regressions from Abreu and Conor.

 

Sanchez/Semien need to hold their own offensively and defensively.

 

 

That bat is more likely to be someone like an Adam Lind or Nick Markakis type...the second tier of hitters, but not the bottom of the barrel guys like Carlos Pena or Raul Ibanez.

 

 

I'll hold onto my dreams for Shields and Kemp and be only slightly disappointed and not at all surprised. The Stanton injury is further evidence that it's dangerous to put all your eggs in too many superstar baskets, so to speak. Because if one of those guys goes downs or underperforms, your whole season's toast.

 

 

[RockRaines]

Is 14th in the league with the injuries we've had good enough to win the division with good pitching?

[chitownsportsfan]

I believe they think one other good pitcher with Sale and Q as well as a reliable pen could contend right now. One bat and it could win. Mind you thats with a fully healthy squad.

IMO they need a really good LH hitter. Wilkins is NOT the answer

 

we can hope. history hasn't been that kind recently.

[RockRaines]

And Eaton's going to have to be on the field for 145-150 games, at least.

 

Garcia's got to be a legit, middle of the order, run-producing bat who hits 18-24 homers...like an Alex Rios, but the good version.

 

Survive the expected regressions from Abreu and Conor.

 

Sanchez/Semien need to hold their own offensively and defensively.

 

 

That bat is more likely to be someone like an Adam Lind or Nick Markakis type...the second tier of hitters, but not the bottom of the barrel guys like Carlos Pena or Raul Ibanez.

 

 

I'll hold onto my dreams for Shields and Kemp and be only slightly disappointed and not at all surprised. The Stanton injury is further evidence that it's dangerous to put all your eggs in too many superstar baskets, so to speak. Because if one of those guys goes downs or underperforms, your whole season's toast.

I agree with you, I think we are an impact bat short on offense, but not sure the org agrees with us

[RockRaines]

Keep in mind that Rock thinks Avi Garcia is the next Ordonez

"Could be" there is a difference. Hopefully, yes.

[chitownsportsfan]

Keep in mind that Rock thinks Avi Garcia is the next Ordonez

 

I think Avi can be a 290/330/500 type with average defense and above average running. All things considered in today's s*** offensive environment that's a 4 war player. (hi Adam Eaton). That's about as good as Maggs was. Maybe his peak won't quite be as good as Maggs' but he could have a very similiar impact.

[southsider2k5]

Keep in mind that Rock thinks Avi Garcia is the next Ordonez

 

I get the feeling he will be a run producer. Even with the numbers he has put up this year, projected out over a season, he would finish around 100 RBIs.

[RockRaines]

I think Avi can be a 290/330/500 type with average defense and above average running. All things considered in today's s*** offensive environment that's a 4 war player. (hi Adam Eaton). That's about as good as Maggs was. Maybe his peak won't quite be as good as Maggs' but he could have a very similiar impact.

When I had season tickets in the bleachers, Maggs used to hit it to my gap all the time. I really hope Avi is that type of player.

 

As far as the MVP-almost tigers (PED) typo Maggs, probably never.

[LDF]

And Eaton's going to have to be on the field for 145-150 games, at least.

 

Garcia's got to be a legit, middle of the order, run-producing bat who hits 18-24 homers...like an Alex Rios, but the good version.

 

Survive the expected regressions from Abreu and Conor.

 

Sanchez/Semien need to hold their own offensively and defensively.

 

 

That bat is more likely to be someone like an Adam Lind or Nick Markakis type...the second tier of hitters, but not the bottom of the barrel guys like Carlos Pena or Raul Ibanez.

 

 

I'll hold onto my dreams for Shields and Kemp and be only slightly disappointed and not at all surprised. The Stanton injury is further evidence that it's dangerous to put all your eggs in too many superstar baskets, so to speak. Because if one of those guys goes downs or underperforms, your whole season's toast.

 

re eaton, I hope he can stay healthy for a full season.

the only way the sox should take on kemp and his salary if dodgers add a couple of other prospects

as a pkg.

 

Edited September 12, 2014 by LDF

[chitownsportsfan]

yes eaton has to play at least 130 games next year otherwise forget it. He's the difference between 82 wins and 86 probably and maybe even 87 if he can play 150.