Stadium

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

Regarding the name change, I thought it was a given that there would be a renaming when I first heard US Cellular was leaving the market, but I recall reading something around that time saying the name would stay because it would still be relevant via televised games.

[LDF]

Regarding the name change, I thought it was a given that there would be a renaming when I first heard US Cellular was leaving the market, but I recall reading something around that time saying the name would stay because it would still be relevant via televised games.

 

I am not sure about this, but I thought when US Cellular left or leaving, the sox was going to go with

the cell for now. I don't know if this has any difference in this discussion.

[ewokpelts]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Reese_Hospital

The olympic organizing committe is NOT the city of chicago.

 

 

Nonetheless, it's impractical for 81 games a year. No rail service. No superhighway access(lake shore drive is a war zone on bear games 6 hours before kick off), and too far to walk from the limited rail service that services solder field.

[GreatScott82]

I'm just grateful they didn't move to Sarasota back in the late 80's. The Sox are still here, us fans have a nice stadium to watch a game at and we can tail gate One thing that I do occasionally think about is the fact they were pretty close to building the new park in Addison, IL. I wonder how that could have changed things?

[southsider2k5]

The olympic organizing committe is NOT the city of chicago.

 

 

Nonetheless, it's impractical for 81 games a year. No rail service. No superhighway access(lake shore drive is a war zone on bear games 6 hours before kick off), and too far to walk from the limited rail service that services solder field.

 

Because the OC wasn't acting on the behalf of the City of Chicago? That is a ridiculous technicality.

[Chicago White Sox]

I'm just grateful they didn't move to Sarasota back in the late 80's. The Sox are still here, us fans have a nice stadium to watch a game at and we can tail gate One thing that I do occasionally think about is the fact they were pretty close to building the new park in Addison, IL. I wonder how that could have changed things?

Now that I live in Elmhurst & work in Bloomingdale, the idea of a Sox park in Addison sounds pretty amazing. But back in my city days, driving to the west suburbs to watch a Sox game would have sucked balls. I think the Sox would get a pretty different mix of fans if they moved out to the burbs. Taking the L to and from the game is just such a convenient and cheap form of transportation for younger, city-dwelling fans. I think they would have lost a ton of those fans by being in Addison.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Chicago White Sox

[kitekrazy]

I'm just grateful they didn't move to Sarasota back in the late 80's. The Sox are still here, us fans have a nice stadium to watch a game at and we can tail gate One thing that I do occasionally think about is the fact they were pretty close to building the new park in Addison, IL. I wonder how that could have changed things?

 

Outdoor sports don't seem draw well in Florida. When the Dolphins under Dan Marino were in the post season you could walk up before game time and buy a ticket. I'd like to see the Sox move out of state if only for more revenue but at the same time the community is so much better than when there was Comiskey Park. I'd prefer they stay as oppose to have that area get run down.

 

[SouthsideDon48]

If the sox ever build a new stadium in downtown chicago, I think they should build it close to where Soldier Field is, if there's any available land there. Someone who knows the land there should hopefully be able to verify this. But imagine if they build the new stadium close to soldier field, with a view through the centerfield of the downtown chicago skyline? It would look especially beautiful at night. parking would prolly suck, and it would be a little bit of a long walk from the rock island line, but it would be a fun park to go to, especially if there's any way the park can be angled for a downtown skyline view AND allow for home run balls to be hit into lake michigan. What do you guys think?

 

All in all, though, i am happy with the current location at 35th, i find it easy for me to get to with the rock island line and i like not having to go further north.

[Chicago White Sox]

Outdoor sports don't seem draw well in Florida. When the Dolphins under Dan Marino were in the post season you could walk up before game time and buy a ticket. I'd like to see the Sox move out of state if only for more revenue but at the same time the community is so much better than when there was Comiskey Park. I'd prefer they stay as oppose to have that area get run down.

Why in the world do you think they'd make more revenue outside of Chicago? Even with s***ty attendance last year, we were about 14th or 15th in the league in revenue. I can't think of one city without a baseball team that would be more attractive than being the second team in Chicago.

[ewokpelts]

Because the OC wasn't acting on the behalf of the City of Chicago? That is a ridiculous technicality.

The olympic site committed, at least in the states, are a complex legal setup. It's not a technicality.

[BaconOnAStick]

Just an fyi, there's a decent amount of evidence that the White Sox are the more popular team in the city and Cook Co. Take a look at those fan maps going off Facebook liked and s***. There's of course no doubt Sox Nation is tiny compared to Cubs Nation and that the greater Metro area (a majority of which resides outside Cook County) is Cubs dominated except for Northwest Indiana.

 

So if you have a team that could very well have a superior following to the Chicago freaking Cubs in your immediate environs you don't bolt. You also look at how America is urbanizing and how Bridgeport/Pilsen are increasingly becoming places people want to live... it'd be stupid to leave. The White Sox are already right in the middle of the league in terms of revenue, and they have a lot of growth potential because of their location.

 

I'm guessing a new park in the next 15 years, with talks heating up around the time the US Cellular naming deal runs up. It will still be at 35th and Shields.

Edited September 13, 2014 by BaconOnAStick

[nitetrain8601]

Just an fyi, there's a decent amount of evidence that the White Sox are the more popular team in the city and Cook Co. Take a look at those fan maps going off Facebook liked and s***. There's of course no doubt Sox Nation is tiny compared to Cubs Nation and that the greater Metro area (a majority of which resides outside Cook County) is Cubs dominated except for Northwest Indiana.

 

So if you have a team that could very well have a superior following to the Chicago freaking Cubs in your immediate environs you don't bolt. You also look at how America is urbanizing and how Bridgeport/Pilsen are increasingly becoming places people want to live... it'd be stupid to leave. The White Sox are already right in the middle of the league in terms of revenue, and they have a lot of growth potential because of their location.

 

I'm guessing a new park in the next 15 years, with talks heating up around the time the US Cellular naming deal runs up. It will still be at 35th and Shields.

 

Disagreed. They got a cookie cutter stadium that was built and is pretty easy to renovate. They just built Bacardi at the Park(whatever they're calling it these days), and the neighborhood is improving(more so, the good areas are slowly expanding). The city also won't let them move, especially considering the Rock Island stop at 35th was built specifically for them.

 

I would personally love them to move along the river just south of Roosevelt and Clark as you can have the skyline, lake and feature the Chicago River which no one has done. Another site I would look at is where they were going to build the Spire just off of the top of my head.

[southsider2k5]

Disagreed. They got a cookie cutter stadium that was built and is pretty easy to renovate. They just built Bacardi at the Park(whatever they're calling it these days), and the neighborhood is improving(more so, the good areas are slowly expanding). The city also won't let them move, especially considering the Rock Island stop at 35th was built specifically for them.

 

I would personally love them to move along the river just south of Roosevelt and Clark as you can have the skyline, lake and feature the Chicago River which no one has done. Another site I would look at is where they were going to build the Spire just off of the top of my head.

 

The Spire is on a tiny footprint.

 

[nickofypres]

Disagreed. They got a cookie cutter stadium that was built and is pretty easy to renovate. They just built Bacardi at the Park(whatever they're calling it these days), and the neighborhood is improving(more so, the good areas are slowly expanding). The city also won't let them move, especially considering the Rock Island stop at 35th was built specifically for them.

 

I would personally love them to move along the river just south of Roosevelt and Clark as you can have the skyline, lake and feature the Chicago River which no one has done. Another site I would look at is where they were going to build the Spire just off of the top of my head.

 

Um?

[greg775]

Just an fyi, there's a decent amount of evidence that the White Sox are the more popular team in the city and Cook Co. Take a look at those fan maps going off Facebook liked and s***. There's of course no doubt Sox Nation is tiny compared to Cubs Nation and that the greater Metro area (a majority of which resides outside Cook County) is Cubs dominated except for Northwest Indiana.

 

So if you have a team that could very well have a superior following to the Chicago freaking Cubs in your immediate environs you don't bolt. You also look at how America is urbanizing and how Bridgeport/Pilsen are increasingly becoming places people want to live... it'd be stupid to leave. The White Sox are already right in the middle of the league in terms of revenue, and they have a lot of growth potential because of their location.

 

I'm guessing a new park in the next 15 years, with talks heating up around the time the US Cellular naming deal runs up. It will still be at 35th and Shields.

 

Unless the economy skyrockets, there's no way in hell. The State is not going to pay a penny for a new baseball stadium in Chicago. And no way the new owners will use their own money for a stadium. That won't happen. Not for the second team in Chicago. That's my opinion.

[IlliniKrush]

Um?

Are you saying it wasn't cookie cutter? Because the Cell was about as cookie cutter and generic as possible when it was built. It was awful. Absolutely nothing unique about it.

[greg775]

Are you saying it wasn't cookie cutter? Because the Cell was about as cookie cutter and generic as possible when it was built. It was awful. Absolutely nothing unique about it.

Yes it was horrendous. Reinsdorf always liked Kauffman Stadium and patterned it after that. No amenities at all. I wish the Sox had waited a couple years and gotten something like Camden.

[Dick Allen]

Yes it was horrendous. Reinsdorf always liked Kauffman Stadium and patterned it after that. No amenities at all. I wish the Sox had waited a couple years and gotten something like Camden.

The story is the architects offered JR a place like Camden and he said no. He wanted a symmetrical stadium.

 

 

That said, with the renovations, USCF is a great place to watch a game. It doesn't look as sterile and cold like it did, and the sight lines are as good as any.

[Quin]

The story is the architects offered JR a place like Camden and he said no. He wanted a symmetrical stadium.

 

 

That said, with the renovations, USCF is a great place to watch a game. It doesn't look as sterile and cold like it did, and the sight lines are as good as any.

 

Seriously. The renovations are fantastic.

 

The Fundamentals deck adds a nice site in LF, even if it's not an attraction for adults. The statues on the concourse bring some history, the out of town scoreboard is fantastic. The green seats are nice to look at. The Sports Depot and ChiSox Bar & Grill (formerly Bacardi at the Park) are nice before and after games.

[Balta1701]

My question is...how well is this structure going to hold up? If there are going to need to be major repairs and renovations in 10-20 years, then that's going to fundamentally change the calculus about whether this stadium gets replaced. Anyone know how the bones of the ballpark are?

[southsider2k5]

The olympic site committed, at least in the states, are a complex legal setup. It's not a technicality.

 

In the City of Chicago, they were completely intermingled and run by Daley's cronies and loyalists.

[nickofypres]

Are you saying it wasn't cookie cutter? Because the Cell was about as cookie cutter and generic as possible when it was built. It was awful. Absolutely nothing unique about it.

 

If you're implying it looked like Three Rivers, the Vet, Busch II, Shea, etc, I disagree. I agree the old colour scheme was boring, but its not a cookie cutter.

[IlliniKrush]

If you're implying it looked like Three Rivers, the Vet, Busch II, Shea, etc, I disagree. I agree the old colour scheme was boring, but its not a cookie cutter.

"Marked by sameness and a lack of originality; mass-produced."

 

Perfectly fits that. It doesn't have to be a true circle to be cookie-cutter, if that's your argument.

 

Color scheme was boring? The entire park was boring.

[nitetrain8601]

"Marked by sameness and a lack of originality; mass-produced."

 

Perfectly fits that. It doesn't have to be a true circle to be cookie-cutter, if that's your argument.

 

Color scheme was boring? The entire park was boring.

 

Agreed. They made some great improvements to it and it looks great except it points the wrong way.

[Rowand44]

I've said this a few times on this site but when I was a kid I really didn't care how it looked but taking a look back on it now, that was one ugly f***in place before the renovations. Love it now though.

Edited September 15, 2014 by Rowand44