southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 06:50 AM) Non-tendered players... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/list...rs-2014-15.html 6.5 years ago, I thought the Sox were getting Beckham or Smoak in the draft. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Some buy low projects on that list for sure. It will be interesting to see what the Sox have planned for the open roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/roya...e-hochevar.html Royals re-signed Hochevar. I wanted the Sox to sign him. Damn. i agree with you, i was hoping as a last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lots of smoke that Lester's going to decide in the next few days. Seems like the Cubs are back to being the likely choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) Torii Hunter back to Minnesota for 1 year. Why can't he just go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:23 AM) Lots of smoke that Lester's going to decide in the next few days. Seems like the Cubs are back to being the likely choice. They can go ahead and pay him 23 mil a year for 6 years. Be my guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) They can go ahead and pay him 23 mil a year for 6 years. Be my guest. He immediately makes them a team to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) They can go ahead and pay him 23 mil a year for 6 years. Be my guest. I think it will be 6 years and $150 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) He immediately makes them a team to watch. That's fine. Doesn't mean that they will be good. He'll be 31 at the start of next season. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) I think it will be 6 years and $150 million. Even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 9m9 minutes ago Jim Johnson gets $1.6M base salary from #braves plus a potential $900,000 in performance bonuses, a source says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) That's fine. Doesn't mean that they will be good. He'll be 31 at the start of next season. Sorry, I meant that as it immediately makes them a team to watch as a team on the rise because he improves their team immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yankees now in on Lester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Gregor Chisholm @gregorMLB 13m13 minutes ago #BlueJays have signed first baseman Justin Smoak to a one-year contract worth $1 million. He would have earned approximately $3 mil in arb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 16m16 minutes ago The negotiations between the Braves and outfielder Nick Markakis have intensified. Hearing the deal could wind up in range of 4/$45m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 09:58 PM) Yankees now in on Lester. in the range of 23-25 mil, i think that would be a good salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:05 PM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 16m16 minutes ago The negotiations between the Braves and outfielder Nick Markakis have intensified. Hearing the deal could wind up in range of 4/$45m. that is also a good salary, and even a better value if he starts to hit like he did 2 yr+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 JA Happ to Seattle for Michael Saunders. Toronto getting back another Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Markakis 4/44 from the Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 05:17 PM) JA Happ to Seattle for Michael Saunders. Toronto getting back another Canadian. Saunders would have closed a gaping hole of the Sox at a cheap price; instead the Sox want short term fixes of non-priority needs at high prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 05:22 PM) Saunders would have closed a gaping hole of the Sox at a cheap price; instead the Sox want short term fixes of non-priority needs at high prices. JA Happ had a 1.3 WAR last year and he could easily be a 2 WAR pitcher. The only pitcher the White Sox have that's similar to that is Hector Noesi, and do you think the Mariners want to go down that road again? Given the return, the White Sox had no pieces that would have made sense to trade to the Mariners. Plus, had they traded a so-so prospect, you'd have been up in arms about them trading a prospect when they need to be keeping those kinds of players at this time. He wouldn't have been a bad pick up, but there are literally hundreds of players available one way or another that would be "not bad pick ups." Losing one is not the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 JA Happ had a 1.3 WAR last year and he could easily be a 2 WAR pitcher. The only pitcher the White Sox have that's similar to that is Hector Noesi, and do you think the Mariners want to go down that road again? Given the return, the White Sox had no pieces that would have made sense to trade to the Mariners. Plus, had they traded a so-so prospect, you'd have been up in arms about them trading a prospect when they need to be keeping those kinds of players at this time. He wouldn't have been a bad pick up, but there are literally hundreds of players available one way or another that would be "not bad pick ups." Losing one is not the end of the world. Yeah, I wanted Saunders but that's a lot more value than I thought Seattle was going to get for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Markakis 4/44 from the Braves. Yeah, I'd rather pay 4/58 for Melky than 4/44 for Markakis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So the Braves have essentially added a more expensive and declining Markakis for Heyward (who was going to leave in all probability) and picked up a long-term rotation piece in Miller along with a lottery ticket similar to Montas in ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 05:30 PM) JA Happ had a 1.3 WAR last year and he could easily be a 2 WAR pitcher. The only pitcher the White Sox have that's similar to that is Hector Noesi, and do you think the Mariners want to go down that road again? Given the return, the White Sox had no pieces that would have made sense to trade to the Mariners. Plus, had they traded a so-so prospect, you'd have been up in arms about them trading a prospect when they need to be keeping those kinds of players at this time. He wouldn't have been a bad pick up, but there are literally hundreds of players available one way or another that would be "not bad pick ups." Losing one is not the end of the world. Then do a 3 way. Happ is a mediocre pitcher on a 1 year contract who is 32. Saunders would have plugged a big hole. And that's the weakness of the Sox - holes. We have a good core. Plug the gaping holes and this team improves a lot. Don't plug them and getting another "Star" won't get us anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Heck, the White Sox could have used Happ or Saunders this year. Either one. Of course, they're not the "dream" KW options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I don't think Lester is going to do all that much for the Cubs. All that does is replace what was lost in Samardzija, more or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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