LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) I don't want to speak on anybody's behalf, but what I asked previously is what people would essentially give up to move Danks. John Danks is set to make $28.5 million over the next 2 years. I think I'd probably be willing to eat about half of that if the right situation came up and it made sense for the Sox, and that's in a straight dump of Danks' contract. However, I don't see any way a team would be willing to make a trade like that. I think the best route would be in a deal for a bad contract - the two names that come to mind are Ethier and Hamilton. For Ethier, the Sox would also have to include a prospect to get the deal done, and if they want some of the contract in 2016 paid for, they'd likely have to include another prospect or include a better prospect, neither of which are ideal. If they did it for Hamilton, the Angels would still have to kick in about $30-40 million based solely on how terrible Hamilton's contract is. Neither of these are attractive options. Danks is basically a ketchup popsicle right now. what (meant as humor) but you have a good point. however I can't see any of that happening. Danks is the sox until the end of contract. but i still hold out hope in Ethier or Crawford. Edited October 21, 2014 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 02:10 PM) Danks is basically a ketchup popsicle right now. So we should dump Hahn and hire Big Tom Callahan as GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 01:57 PM) this is not a Danks response but a response for any player in this situation. The contract is sign and sealed. no one can change that, no one. he got hurt, thru no fault except for bad luck. am I happy no. am I saying dump him, no, the sox can not do that. why, rule and the union will prohibit that. what can the sox do about him, nothing. trade him, been there and no one is biting. can he come back, maybe, doubt it, but crazier things have happen. the sox will have to coop with this hole for the length of his contract. What do you mean? Of course they can dump him. They could release him outright if they wanted. They just still have to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 07:25 PM) What do you mean? Of course they can dump him. They could release him outright if they wanted. They just still have to pay him. in this example, poster are trying to get out of some of his contract. nah, it is not going to happen. release him and still pay off his contract is still like keeping him and paying him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You guys need to leave Big Game John alone. 11 starts vs playoff teams 71.2 IP 2.64 ERA 1.21 WHIP 49 Ks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) So we should dump Hahn and hire Big Tom Callahan as GM. Maybe. Or maybe you can just convince the fans that mustard popsicles are the new thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 07:30 PM) Maybe. Or maybe you can just convince the fans that mustard popsicles are the new thing. oh man, I have feeling that i am not going to forget this word for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 interesting reading, this reporter wrote up his priority list. http://www.southsidesox.com/2014/10/20/700...-offseason-plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 05:38 PM) interesting reading, this reporter wrote up his priority list. http://www.southsidesox.com/2014/10/20/700...-offseason-plan Interesting and then became head scratching once the Edwin Jackson for John Danks proposal came up. I myself have thrown some s*** out there but that trade proposal is flat out dumb, period. I immediately stopped reading when I got to that part of the article. Sox fans rely too much on the " Coop will fix em" bulls***. Coop is a good pitching coach but let's face it, if Coop could fix everybody the Sox pen would not have been so bad. I will take Danks over Jackson anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 06:02 PM) Interesting and then became head scratching once the Edwin Jackson for John Danks proposal came up. I myself have thrown some s*** out there but that trade proposal is flat out dumb, period. I immediately stopped reading when I got to that part of the article. Sox fans rely too much on the " Coop will fix em" bulls***. Coop is a good pitching coach but let's face it, if Coop could fix everybody the Sox pen would not have been so bad. I will take Danks over Jackson anytime. Jackson was pretty good with us, at least for a portion of his tenure here. I think there is some history in place to suggest "Coop may fix em". Not saying I'm in favor of this move or not, but I can see some logic to it from both perspectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 06:26 PM) Jackson was pretty good with us, at least for a portion of his tenure here. I think there is some history in place to suggest "Coop may fix em". Not saying I'm in favor of this move or not, but I can see some logic to it from both perspectives. My thing is, that history was in 2011 and Jackson has progressively gotten worse since then. Coop has enough on his plate as is. At least with Danks, we know we got and what he's capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 12:18 AM) My thing is, that history was in 2011 and Jackson has progressively gotten worse since then. Coop has enough on his plate as is. At least with Danks, we know we got and what he's capable of. I was like you, I stop reading at these suppose trades or fa signing. I then found the article amusing. a reported playing the what if game and speculation on supposed movement of different players. no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Jackson, with some of his peripheral numbers...at least looks like the better bet...it's not the craziest idea in the world if his stuff's still there. A lot of players (see DeAza) perform differently for a team in contention compared to one eliminated in May or June. It also gives both players a fresh start/clean slate and they wouldn't have to uproot their families, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) I was like you, I stop reading at these suppose trades or fa signing. I then found the article amusing. a reported playing the what if game and speculation on supposed movement of different players. no thanks. Absolutely man. I think there are some better and more interesting ideas on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 03:04 AM) Absolutely man. I think there are some better and more interesting ideas on this board. jeeze, how many posters post here? I am sure many have differing opinions. the guys cover so much material. that is why I have always said, the sox fans are very informed. I find it very funny how some things we post here find it way to others articles. however I posted the article with its link. interesting reading. Edited October 22, 2014 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I see no reason to dump Danks at this point. He is not blocking anyone from the majors at this point. His salary is large for a backend starter, but, I am not sure whatever it would cost the Sox to dump him would be worth it. Danks is the staff veteran now and can be useful in integrating guys like Rodon, Beck, and Danish into the majors. When the other starters like Rodon and Noesi start hitting arb salaries he will be a FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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