CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Pick him up!!! Designate Shuck. I love what he brings to the clubhouse. Plus, he's the only one that made Conor smile! I said in another thread that I miss Moises Sierra and got the response "said no one ever". Glad to see I'm not the only one. Edited December 16, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) I said in another thread that I miss Moises Sierra and got the response "said no one ever". Glad to see I'm not the only one. Moises makes the game fun. He knows he's a 4th outfielder, good defense, great arm, the bat could be there and he's a great clubhouse guy. Hahn I hope you read this board and bring back Moises! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Moises makes the game fun. He knows he's a 4th outfielder, good defense, great arm, the bat could be there and he's a great clubhouse guy. Hahn I hope you read this board and bring back Moises! Him and Abreu were pretty close from all appearances. Maybe even a little too close from some of the vids I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) Moises makes the game fun. He knows he's a 4th outfielder, good defense, great arm, the bat could be there and he's a great clubhouse guy. Hahn I hope you read this board and bring back Moises! I wouldn't call him a good defender. He gets terrible reads and routes on the ball. He makes up for it with an 80 arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 His defense is viciedo/de Aza esque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 01:48 PM) His defense is viciedo/de Aza esque. Want to back that up with something tangible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) Want to back that up with something tangible ? He is going to be a limited sample size guy no matter what the stats say. Just watching him out there, he looked like a little leaguer fighting the ball and routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) He is going to be a limited sample size guy no matter what the stats say. Just watching him out there, he looked like a little leaguer fighting the ball and routes. Guess I saw it differently than you. I thought he was above average in RF. But I know you don't like him as a player and I do so we're both biased . Only the limited sample size stats back me at least for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Get him as the fourth outfielder. It makes too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) Guess I saw it differently than you. I thought he was above average in RF. But I know you don't like him as a player and I do so we're both biased . Only the limited sample size stats back me at least for 2014. The 2014 numbers had him as a statistically slightly above average RF in limited time (though slightly below average while he was with the Sox in RF). He was an incredibly terrible CF, and an incredibly great LF in extremely limited time. For his career, he is below average, statistically. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...ion=OF#fielding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) Get him as the fourth outfielder. It makes too much sense. Problem is he not really a backup CF. Need a guy who can play all OF positions pretty well . Jordan Danks is still the best we have for that so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) He is going to be a limited sample size guy no matter what the stats say. Just watching him out there, he looked like a little leaguer fighting the ball and routes. I felt like he had a few head-scratchers out there but also several fabulous plays. I'm honestly not sure how good of a defender he is. I'm not convinced he's bad, but I'm not convinced he's great either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd offer him a minor league deal with invite to ST in a heartbeat. I liked him when he was on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 04:28 PM) I felt like he had a few head-scratchers out there but also several fabulous plays. I'm honestly not sure how good of a defender he is. I'm not convinced he's bad, but I'm not convinced he's great either. He is a guy who has the physical tools to cover up some of his other problems. +speed, and ++arm helps. The rest of the package, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 02:23 PM) The 2014 numbers had him as a statistically slightly above average RF in limited time (though slightly below average while he was with the Sox in RF). He was an incredibly terrible CF, and an incredibly great LF in extremely limited time. For his career, he is below average, statistically. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...ion=OF#fielding I know I saw the same stats. Just saying it's pretty much a given he's much better defensively than Viciedo. Can you imagine Robin putting Tank in CF ? At least Robin had enough confidence in him to give him a few games in CF. He just doesn't have the speed to be a true backup in center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) I know I saw the same stats. Just saying it's pretty much a given he's much better defensively than Viciedo. Can you imagine Robin putting Tank in CF ? At least Robin had enough confidence in him to give him a few games in CF. He just doesn't have the speed to be a true backup in center. He is a much better defender than Viciedo, but that isn't really saying much. At the same time he is no where near the league of a guy like Jordan Danks, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Problem is he not really a backup CF. Need a guy who can play all OF positions pretty well . Jordan Danks is still the best we have for that so far. If the asshole would just learn how to f***ing hit he'd be a shoe in. He swing just makes me want to punch him in the face. Edited December 16, 2014 by pettie4sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I would take Sierra back in a second but I see him as more of a fifth outfielder. Would love to talk to the Pirates about Tabata. Good defense and hits left handed pitchers well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Outrighted to Royals AAA team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2014 -> 10:57 PM) Outrighted to Royals AAA team. I am kind of surprised he didn't at least explore free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2014 -> 12:44 PM) I am kind of surprised he didn't at least explore free agency. He probably doesn't have enough service time to refuse an assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 i actually might have preferred Sierra to Danks next year. Were we already in the playoffs. But for the season long grind, 4th OF has to be glove first and Sierra is not well-rounded in that dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Sierras the better 4th OF. He hits better than Danks and the late inning relief is needed for the corners , not cf. Sierra is good defensively at the corners If you want to give Eaton days off you still need someone who can hit a little and cover CF reasonably well. Danks' bat is just way lite. Or at least I can say that there is now way we have both Danks and L Garcia in reserve roles. Edited December 23, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 24, 2014 -> 06:40 PM) No he is not. No kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Dec 23, 2014 -> 09:51 PM) No kidding Baseball America graded him out as the 5th best outfielder in AAA last year. Do with that as you will, their grading wasn't exactly foolproof like most defensive metrics. But he certainly passes the eye test on being that good too. Sierra on the other hand... We figure to be winning and we have two average to poor defensive outfielders. Danks could be very valuable to this team. Glad it's looking like he has a roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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