rowand's rowdies Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Rotoworld says Mark has been made available and the Jays will have to eat some of his $19 million salary. Why not let them take John Danks off our hands for Mark, straight up, for one last season for Mark, much like Paulie's last year. These last year type years will help bridge the gap until Rick and the boys can. Thoughts? Any prospects match up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) Rotoworld says Mark has been made available and the Jays will have to eat some of his $19 million salary. Why not let them take John Danks off our hands for Mark, straight up, for one last season for Mark, much like Paulie's last year. These last year type years will help bridge the gap until Rick and the boys can. Thoughts? Any prospects match up? It's pretty obvious and will likey be posted here 15 times... We've already got 3 LHSP, after Rodon... Four. Hence, Mark really can't have a place with us. Your solution seems to be swapping Danks for him but why on Gods green earth would Authopthos do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) It's pretty obvious and will likey be posted here 15 times... We've already got 3 LHSP, after Rodon... Four. Hence, Mark really can't have a place with us. Your solution seems to be swapping Danks for him but why on Gods green earth would Authopthos do that? Agreed. jeeze I can't I am in agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 11:24 AM) Agreed. jeeze I can't I am in agreement. Funny this was posted on MLB Trade Rumors today... The White Sox would love to move John Danks, but the $28.5MM owed to him over the next two years will be a deterrent to teams. Meanwhile, pitching coach Don Cooper still believes Danks, who has lost some of his heat, could become the second coming of Buehrle and pitch effectively in the mid-to-high 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) Rotoworld says Mark has been made available and the Jays will have to eat some of his $19 million salary. Why not let them take John Danks off our hands for Mark, straight up, for one last season for Mark, much like Paulie's last year. These last year type years will help bridge the gap until Rick and the boys can. Thoughts? Any prospects match up? No one wants John Danks. No one. People need to get this through their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 07:26 PM) Funny this was posted on MLB Trade Rumors today... I know. I was referring to the Tor doing the trade. oh hell. forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Danks seemed to be getting better at the end of the season. That might be something to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Absolutely 100% get Buehrle if the Jays are eating money. All you people who don't want another lefty are just right-handed people who are just terrified of the 10% of us who are superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Go back to your leftorium, Ned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I will always want Buehrle back on this team. Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Mark Buehrle - available Roster spot for another lefty starter - occupied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 07:35 PM) I will always want Buehrle back on this team. Please If they brought him back for his final season, I wouldn't be unhappy...especially if he already knows 2015 will be his final season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll pass. They can keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) What's more important, the hand a starter throws with or getting hitters out? Buehrle put up a 3.39 ERA in a tough ALE division last season but hey, f*** that idea, better to sign Peavy or Masterson because they are right handed... I would gladly take Buerhle back depending on the cost and I can give a toss if the Sox ended up with four or even five lefties as long as they can get outs. Edited October 27, 2014 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 02:57 AM) What's more important, the hand a starter throws with or getting hitters out? Buehrle put up a 3.39 ERA in a tough ALE division last season but hey, f*** that idea, better to sign Peavy or Masterson because they are right handed... I would gladly take Buerhle back depending on the cost and I can give a toss if the Sox ended up with four or even five lefties as long as they can get outs. the sox wants pitchers or better yet, mlb players. if it is in the sox interest to get Buehrle, they would and I would welcome it. only if Tor sweeten the deal. the sox accept the whole Buehrle salary and plus prospect for a player who may not be in the sox future. Tor need salary cap room, however they will have 87+ mil on the books. subtract Buehrle 19 mil that will put tor at 67 + mil. that is what I am hoping would entice tor to make this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Getting him back would make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) Funny this was posted on MLB Trade Rumors today... Danks has just got to work on standardizing his release point, which it hasn't happened yet, isn't going to happen. He just seems to have all kinds of mechanical issues that come and go both in games and throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Oct 26, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) Rotoworld says Mark has been made available and the Jays will have to eat some of his $19 million salary. Holy crap, I didn't realize how backloaded his contract was. He probably negotiated that in hopes of not getting traded. Didn't quite work out. I'd be happy if the Sox got Mark back as long as the price was right, lefty/righty be damned. When Buehrle was warming up as a visitor this year, a drunk guy offered to trade Sale to get him back. That would probably get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) Holy crap, I didn't realize how backloaded his contract was. He probably negotiated that in hopes of not getting traded. Didn't quite work out. I'd be happy if the Sox got Mark back as long as the price was right, lefty/righty be damned. When Buehrle was warming up as a visitor this year, a drunk guy offered to trade Sale to get him back. That would probably get it done. Actually, that's exactly what the Marlins have done with several people in order to get a cheap season out of them and then trade them. I still can't believe that Mark didn't see it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) Actually, that's exactly what the Marlins have done with several people in order to get a cheap season out of them and then trade them. I still can't believe that Mark didn't see it coming. To be fair, his claim is that ownership lied to him about not trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) Actually, that's exactly what the Marlins have done with several people in order to get a cheap season out of them and then trade them. I still can't believe that Mark didn't see it coming. The White Sox did this with Maggs. He was underpriced until 2004, then they tried to trade him for Nomar once he was getting paid what he should have been. It started the bad blood, but it is a pretty good strategy assuming a team is willing to pick up the contract. It can easily blow up in your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 10:05 AM) The White Sox did this with Maggs. He was underpriced until 2004, then they tried to trade him for Nomar once he was getting paid what he should have been. It started the bad blood, but it is a pretty good strategy assuming a team is willing to pick up the contract. It can easily blow up in your face. The sad part is the worst blood came when the Sox tried to offer him a contract even though he was injured, and then lied about not having surgery in Europe, without telling the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 10:07 AM) The sad part is the worst blood came when the Sox tried to offer him a contract even though he was injured, and then lied about not having surgery in Europe, without telling the team. He turned them down before he was injured. When he hurt his knee and was down on the field, Ozzie told him he should have signed the extension. At that point, Boras was his agent. He was done with the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 11:05 AM) The White Sox did this with Maggs. He was underpriced until 2004, then they tried to trade him for Nomar once he was getting paid what he should have been. It started the bad blood, but it is a pretty good strategy assuming a team is willing to pick up the contract. It can easily blow up in your face. Yeah but big difference there, Ordonez was on his rookie contract so he had no real control of where he was going anyway. The White Sox could have traded him to the worst team in baseball and there's nothing he could have done about it, that's the "its a business" part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 11:04 AM) To be fair, his claim is that ownership lied to him about not trading him. Got that, still say that Mark should have known exactly what the end result would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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