GreenSox Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) He's a platoon hitter at a position at which the Sox have a 130 game starter. Not a great fit. Interesting scenario, Roost. I like the idea of Headley. As for Crawford, I would have thought he was north of 35, but he's only 32. Edited November 2, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 09:23 PM) He's a platoon hitter at a position at which the Sox have a 130 game starter. Not a great fit. Interesting scenario, Roost. I like the idea of Headley. As for Crawford, I would have thought he was north of 35, but he's only 32. We have a DH option worthy of starting 130 games right now? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 08:23 PM) He's a platoon hitter at a position at which the Sox have a 130 game starter. Not a great fit. Interesting scenario, Roost. I like the idea of Headley. As for Crawford, I would have thought he was north of 35, but he's only 32. Thank you sir. I was thinking the same about Crawford until I looked him up, I was surprised as well. I think Crawford is a guy LA would like to trade so they have room for Perderson. If LA were willing to kick in roughly 15-18M for the remaining 3 years of Crawford's contract, it would knock his salary down to around 15M per year which is much more reasonable. Tank would have to be traded or let go but I doubt many fans would cry about that, lol. So the Sox would have Abreu at 1B, Headley at 3B and Crawford in LF. Another guy that could factor into the rotating DH with Gillaspie and Crawford could be Michael Morse who can also play LF and wouldn't cost a pick or too much in annual salary. Crawford, Headley and Morse should cost in the area of 35M and leave the Sox room for at least one good reliever possibly another depending on the arbitration cases and how aggressive the Sox want to be. Add two relievers and I seriously think the Sox could take the division in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 08:39 PM) We have a DH option worthy of starting 130 games right now? Who? Lind can't be a full time DH because he's a platoon hitter. So with him, we'd have a partial DH. Yea, Roost, that's a big improvement offensively and defensively at a reasonable cost. Gillaspie could play some first, OF?, DH. Maybe another guy from the right side of some sort. Edited November 2, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) Thank you sir. I was thinking the same about Crawford until I looked him up, I was surprised as well. I think Crawford is a guy LA would like to trade so they have room for Perderson. If LA were willing to kick in roughly 15-18M for the remaining 3 years of Crawford's contract, it would knock his salary down to around 15M per year which is much more reasonable. Tank would have to be traded or let go but I doubt many fans would cry about that, lol. So the Sox would have Abreu at 1B, Headley at 3B and Crawford in LF. Another guy that could factor into the rotating DH with Gillaspie and Crawford could be Michael Morse who can also play LF and wouldn't cost a pick or too much in annual salary. Crawford, Headley and Morse should cost in the area of 35M and leave the Sox room for at least one good reliever possibly another depending on the arbitration cases and how aggressive the Sox want to be. Add two relievers and I seriously think the Sox could take the division in 2015. With the starting rotation as is...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 08:59 PM) Lind can't be a full time DH because he's a platoon hitter. So with him, we'd have a partial DH. Yea, Roost, that's a big improvement offensively and defensively at a reasonable cost. Gillaspie could play some first, OF?, DH. Maybe another guy from the right side of some sort. Gillaspie could serve as backup to 3B and 1B as well as DH too. Michael Morse would supply a rather good RH bat to fit into the mix. I don't know how plausible any of this is but its fun to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) Lind can't be a full time DH because he's a platoon hitter. So with him, we'd have a partial DH. Yea, Roost, that's a big improvement offensively and defensively at a reasonable cost. Gillaspie could play some first, OF?, DH. Maybe another guy from the right side of some sort. Only if you think Travis Ishikawa is serviceable in left field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) Lind can't be a full time DH because he's a platoon hitter. So with him, we'd have a partial DH. Yea, Roost, that's a big improvement offensively and defensively at a reasonable cost. Gillaspie could play some first, OF?, DH. Maybe another guy from the right side of some sort. He'd still easily see 450-500 PA's. That's well worth the 7.5M he'll make next year if he can continue his career .860 OPS and 128 WRC against righties. I don't want to make it seem likes its a huge deal that we didn't trade for Lind, because its not, but I just can't imagine how a deal similar to the value of Marco Estrada seemed like too much to give up for Lind. Oh well, hopefully Hahn has something else up his sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) Lind can't be a full time DH because he's a platoon hitter. So with him, we'd have a partial DH. This is one of the more bizarre arguments I've ever seen. Are you suggesting Lind is a bad fit because he only hits against 78% of pitchers? And we'd have a hard time finding any other players to give the remaining DH at bats to? The rarely heard "we can't go into the season WITHOUT a full-time DH" argument? For comparison, Jose Abreu's OPS against right handed pitching last year was .919. Adam Lind's was .942. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 04:25 AM) This is one of the more bizarre arguments I've ever seen. Are you suggesting Lind is a bad fit because he only hits against 78% of pitchers? And we'd have a hard time finding any other players to give the remaining DH at bats to? The rarely heard "we can't go into the season WITHOUT a full-time DH" argument? For comparison, Jose Abreu's OPS against right handed pitching last year was .919. Adam Lind's was .942. I don't see how the sox were in for this trade. can someone explain this. is it b/c of what is Bolded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) I don't see how the sox were in for this trade. can someone explain this. is it b/c of what is Bolded? Not sure I understand your question. It was reported that the Sox were also making offers for Lind. As far as I know they were the only team other than the Brewers mentioned as being in for him. What I bolded was simply to demonstrate how good Lind is against right handed pitching. You like Jose Abreu? Lind was better last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 01:29 AM) Not sure I understand your question. It was reported that the Sox were also making offers for Lind. As far as I know they were the only team other than the Brewers mentioned as being in for him. What I bolded was simply to demonstrate how good Lind is against right handed pitching. You like Jose Abreu? Lind was better last year. it was me and my lack of info on Lind. I was surprise that the sox would even consider a player who played part time. I then saw the line where I bolded and was wondering if that was the reason they were interested. my bad. it just took me by surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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