2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The twitterverse is making it sound like the 4th year was the tipping point. Guessing the Sox went 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 10:23 PM) This is doubly awesome. White Sox evade another albatross deal and more bad money for the Tigers ensuring their window not only shuts, but slams shut. It's a good move for the Tigers, as their window is only the next 1-2 years anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) Womp womp....As a guy who thinks he'll still be good for for a few more years I don't really find joy in the Tigers signing him. And even if he does fail the Tigers have an endless pit of money. This is not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Damn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Good. Hopefully the Sox move away from the fulltime DH, and I certainly wouldn't want Martinez ages 36-39. Two years with an option? Sure. 4 years guaranteed? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 3:57pm: The new contract will guarantee Martinez roughly $70MM over its four-year term, reports Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes (Spanish link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 $17.5 mill for a DH. I am not upset they did not sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 04:07 PM) $17.5 mill for a DH. I am not upset they did not sign him. Given the minor inflation between now and 4 years ago, the number is close to the Adam Dunn contract. Not that Dunn lived up to that contract by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 18s19 seconds ago V-Mart agreement is pending physical. Deal for close to $70M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The $17.5M per season isn't that bad. The years is what makes it bad. I am kind of surprised he didn't end up getting more. I'm sure it came down to him deciding between a 3yr 60 and the 4yr 75 or something like that. That deal in year 4 will likely be pretty bad, might even be in year 3, would expect him to be able to still be pretty productive in years 1 and 2. Who knows though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'm in minority who thinks Victor will be like Edgar and be pretty dang good to age 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Whelp I'm disappointed but not mad at all. $70 mil I'd rather spend money on other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 17 per year would be fine for 2 years, but this is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 11:15 PM) Whelp I'm disappointed but not mad at all. $70 mil I'd rather spend money on other areas. Agreed, especially when you take into account the value of a high 2nd round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Yeah, I'll go ahead and celebrate even less salary flexibility for the Tigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 This just puts us in a better position to compete with them. That is not sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 By 2017 Tigers will be in fire sale mode trying to unload as much of this as they can. and this time nobody will bail them out (Rangers).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 05:20 PM) Yeah, I'll go ahead and celebrate even less salary flexibility for the Tigs Money is no object to them. Never ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Money is no object to them. Never ending The Fielder and Fister trades indicate that it is, at least, a minimal object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Yeah, I'll go ahead and celebrate even less salary flexibility for the Tigs I'm with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 4 years, $68M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) Money is no object to them. Never ending Assuming they pick up their options on Avila & offer arbitration to guys like Price and Porcello, this deal puts them currently at $150 million committed for this season. And that's with Scherzer as a free agent. Subtract Scherzer from their roster last year, replace him with 1/2 extra year of Price, and have VMart return to his normal career power production, and that team probably misses the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) Womp womp....As a guy who thinks he'll still be good for for a few more years I don't really find joy in the Tigers signing him. VM will be good thru the whole deal Sox lost out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) Assuming they pick up their options on Avila & offer arbitration to guys like Price and Porcello, this deal puts them currently at $150 million committed for this season. And that's with Scherzer as a free agent. Subtract Scherzer from their roster last year, replace him with 1/2 extra year of Price, and have VMart return to his normal career power production, and that team probably misses the playoffs. The good news is, 2 years from now, Tigers are likely going to find themselves in between a rock and a hard place and by that point we better darn well be contending with an upward ascent. I still think we can contend this year (not saying be the favorite but contend) and then a year from now emerge as a bigger contender and hopefully near favorite. We can't just sit idly and waste cost controlled front-line stars. We just can't do it. You don't know when the well will run dry. I also don't blame the Tigers for what they are doing. They have all of this money invested and have some long-term hits, but if they don't do it now, then they almost wasted most of what they already have on their books...they kind of have to stay IN vs. exit and just hope to really enjoy this ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 04:11 PM) The $17.5M per season isn't that bad. The years is what makes it bad. I am kind of surprised he didn't end up getting more. I'm sure it came down to him deciding between a 3yr 60 and the 4yr 75 or something like that. That deal in year 4 will likely be pretty bad, might even be in year 3, would expect him to be able to still be pretty productive in years 1 and 2. Who knows though. I agree with all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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