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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:15 AM)
ok, you convince me that was a bad idea. on a side note, do you really think

50 mil is the cost?

 

let me ask this question, seeing Jose A now, what will you say his worth being???

 

From the sounds of it, $50 million might be pretty low.

 

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/...thin-two-weeks/

 

Because of his age and lack of experience in a professional league, the much-hyped Moncada is subject to MLB’s international signing regulations — meaning the team that winds up landing him will likely have to pay big money in penalties to outbid the others. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports wrote in early November that Moncada’s first contract could be worth $40 million guaranteed. Add in the penalties for going over the international spending cap and we could be talking about a total expenditure of nearly $80 million.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 04:39 PM)
It is a minor league deal, so it is all payable in the first year. With the new signing rules, international players under 23 can't sign major league contracts anymore.

 

with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs

so, what can that cost be??

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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 12:18 PM)
with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs

so, what can that cost be??

 

They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 06:49 PM)
They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal.

 

very informative, thanks.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:19 AM)
Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane.

 

I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH.

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 08:57 AM)
I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH.

Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:00 AM)
Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions.

 

Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him.

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:56 AM)
Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him.

Well one of the top 3 pitchers didn't sign (so would be ineligible) and Kolek was a prep arm who had a pretty rough debut, IIRC, who I wouldn't expect to be in the top 20. I presume Rodon would be in his top 20.

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 12:56 PM)
Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him.

 

It's also in alphabetical order.

 

Even still, I can't believe Schwarber is even a top 50 guy, honestly. Yeah, he's got a very polished bat, but he was playing way below his talent level in 2014, and his defense is suspect. He's more than likely a future 1B and we've yet to see his bat against real minor league pitching. He's an extreme helium guy right now.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM)
Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane.

How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 09:07 PM)
There won't be either.

 

on this one, i can actually look at the logic of how the cost may be too much. but

dang it, it would be nice to have Yoan and Anderson leading the charge of the young

prospects. i mean the young infield prospects.

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QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 17, 2015 -> 07:20 AM)
How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time.

 

Because he doesn't have a position and he has yet to face any competition. If he dominates AA this year, then I'll be ready to think he's a top 15 hitter in the minors.

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New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2015 -> 10:49 PM)
New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/

 

here is the same question i asked before.

 

if the skills are there, would you sign him, if the upside is a tick lower than Jose A????

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