southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) ok, you convince me that was a bad idea. on a side note, do you really think 50 mil is the cost? let me ask this question, seeing Jose A now, what will you say his worth being??? From the sounds of it, $50 million might be pretty low. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/...thin-two-weeks/ Because of his age and lack of experience in a professional league, the much-hyped Moncada is subject to MLB’s international signing regulations — meaning the team that winds up landing him will likely have to pay big money in penalties to outbid the others. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports wrote in early November that Moncada’s first contract could be worth $40 million guaranteed. Add in the penalties for going over the international spending cap and we could be talking about a total expenditure of nearly $80 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) From the sounds of it, $50 million might be pretty low. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/...thin-two-weeks/ i didn't know that. thanks.... btw how many yrs is that contract for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) i didn't know that. thanks.... btw how many yrs is that contract for? It is a minor league deal, so it is all payable in the first year. With the new signing rules, international players under 23 can't sign major league contracts anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 04:39 PM) It is a minor league deal, so it is all payable in the first year. With the new signing rules, international players under 23 can't sign major league contracts anymore. with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs so, what can that cost be?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs so, what can that cost be?? They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 06:49 PM) They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal. very informative, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB 2h2 hours ago Source: Yoan Moncada still not cleared by US govt to sign. His schedule includes seven private workouts with undisclosed teams this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...a-rank-top-100/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...a-rank-top-100/ Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. Gallo at #5, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH. Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions. Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him. Well one of the top 3 pitchers didn't sign (so would be ineligible) and Kolek was a prep arm who had a pretty rough debut, IIRC, who I wouldn't expect to be in the top 20. I presume Rodon would be in his top 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) Gallo at #5, lol The list is in alphabetical order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him. It's also in alphabetical order. Even still, I can't believe Schwarber is even a top 50 guy, honestly. Yeah, he's got a very polished bat, but he was playing way below his talent level in 2014, and his defense is suspect. He's more than likely a future 1B and we've yet to see his bat against real minor league pitching. He's an extreme helium guy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 No White Sox mentions that I have seen. MLB @MLB 3m3 minutes ago Highly-touted Cuban prospect Yoan Moncada continues his workout rounds: http://atmlb.com/1EnrVNa #HotStove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) No White Sox mentions that I have seen. MLB @MLB 3m3 minutes ago Highly-touted Cuban prospect Yoan Moncada continues his workout rounds: http://atmlb.com/1EnrVNa #HotStove There won't be either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) There won't be either. I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 09:07 PM) There won't be either. on this one, i can actually look at the logic of how the cost may be too much. but dang it, it would be nice to have Yoan and Anderson leading the charge of the young prospects. i mean the young infield prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 17, 2015 -> 07:20 AM) How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time. Because he doesn't have a position and he has yet to face any competition. If he dominates AA this year, then I'll be ready to think he's a top 15 hitter in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) The list is in alphabetical order. Oh, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year. http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2015 -> 10:49 PM) New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year. http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/ here is the same question i asked before. if the skills are there, would you sign him, if the upside is a tick lower than Jose A???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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