LDF Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I would absolutely love if the sox would hire Rick Renteria as 3b coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) McEwing has some of the best post HR high fives around, Renteria can't match that. I thought McEwing is gone. I guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 05:33 PM) McEwing has some of the best post HR high fives around, Renteria can't match that. /thread. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 according to mlb rumor page, Col would be willing to hear any proposal for Troy Tulowitzki. his new contract starts next yr, for 6 yrs. he is 30 yrs old now. according to the splits you will see the huge difference in fields stats. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ar=2014&t=b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) according to mlb rumor page, Col would be willing to hear any proposal for Troy Tulowitzki. his new contract starts next yr, for 6 yrs. he is 30 yrs old now. according to the splits you will see the huge difference in fields stats. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ar=2014&t=b Tempting, but even our best offer of Montas, Danish, Anderson and Hawkins might not be enough to get it done. They would ask for Quintana in addition and that would be the deal breaker IMO. If they would accept the first deal, it's definitely something to consider. However, a Rockies player coming to the AL, his injury history...his going into his decline years, only the Kenny Williamses of the world have the balls to make that deal. And the problem is that the farm system still doesn't have enough depth to recover from losing every top prospect but Rodon in one fell swoop. It would take another 18 months to replace that level of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) Tempting, but even our best offer of Montas, Danish, Anderson and Hawkins might not be enough to get it done. They would ask for Quintana in addition and that would be the deal breaker IMO. If they would accept the first deal, it's definitely something to consider. However, a Rockies player coming to the AL, his injury history...his going into his decline years, only the Kenny Williamses of the world have the balls to make that deal. And the problem is that the farm system still doesn't have enough depth to recover from losing every top prospect but Rodon in one fell swoop. It would take another 18 months to replace that level of talent. Ya no dice. We need to keep our young players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 01:55 AM) Tempting, but even our best offer of Montas, Danish, Anderson and Hawkins might not be enough to get it done. They would ask for Quintana in addition and that would be the deal breaker IMO. If they would accept the first deal, it's definitely something to consider. However, a Rockies player coming to the AL, his injury history...his going into his decline years, only the Kenny Williamses of the world have the balls to make that deal. And the problem is that the farm system still doesn't have enough depth to recover from losing every top prospect but Rodon in one fell swoop. It would take another 18 months to replace that level of talent. R U really serious???? R U pulling my leg ??? I am done for the nite .... its been great talking sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Agreed, I'm not willing to sell the farm for one player. That's a big salary to take on for a 30 year old that has had injury issues. I'm absolutely fine with Alexei at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) Tempting, but even our best offer of Montas, Danish, Anderson and Hawkins might not be enough to get it done. They would ask for Quintana in addition and that would be the deal breaker IMO. There is no team that will give a package like that. None. And that's why the Rocks should keep him. Nobody will pay the value of what he's done in the past. And of course it would be insane for the Sox to do it. Edited November 6, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) Tempting, but even our best offer of Montas, Danish, Anderson and Hawkins might not be enough to get it done. They would ask for Quintana in addition and that would be the deal breaker IMO. If they would accept the first deal, it's definitely something to consider. However, a Rockies player coming to the AL, his injury history...his going into his decline years, only the Kenny Williamses of the world have the balls to make that deal. And the problem is that the farm system still doesn't have enough depth to recover from losing every top prospect but Rodon in one fell swoop. It would take another 18 months to replace that level of talent. I want them to get Heyward. Hawkins, one of Danish/Montas and whatever else is needed. Deal also happens with a 72-hour negotiating window to work an extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:46 PM) I want them to get Heyward. Hawkins, one of Danish/Montas and whatever else is needed. Deal also happens with a 72-hour negotiating window to work an extension I seriously doubt those first 2 would get Hayward. If you include Tim Anderson with the other 2, you might start getting their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:08 PM) I seriously doubt those first 2 would get Hayward. If you include Tim Anderson with the other 2, you might start getting their attention. Hence why I stated: "whatever else is needed." I'm not implying just throw-in guys, just whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlSoxfan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:46 PM) I want them to get Heyward. Hawkins, one of Danish/Montas and whatever else is needed. Deal also happens with a 72-hour negotiating window to work an extension I would love to see us get Heyward. That would be a great pickup for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) My wishful thinking off season would be: signing Sandoval to play third, trading for Heyward (include Davidson in deal since we have Pablo), signing a McCarthy type pitcher, and signing some non-top relievers (Cotts had a solid year, Soriano could be a buy-low option). You could also trade Viciedo for possible bullpen help. Eaton CF. Ramirez SS Abreu 1B Sandoval 3B Garcia LF Heyward RF Flowers C Gillaspie DH/1B/3B maybe platoon with a right handed infielder (Saladino?) and let Pablo DH those days Whoever breaks camp at second I know none of that will happen but it would be interesting to see Edited November 6, 2014 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 $100-116 million for a 3B who's very likely to continue to battle weight/health issues into his 30's....and who's likely to put up a 725-750ish OPS in the coming years? I don't think the upgrade is worth the money unless it's for an all-around superstar-caliber player with offensive and defensive skills in the OF or at catcher. Sandoval's a 12-18 homer guy now, which isn't FAR off what Conor could be expected to provide in the next year or so. The major difference is his defense, but is that really worth a nine figure contract for a team that hasn't approached that number for a single player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:14 AM) $100-116 million for a 3B who's very likelway when Eatono continue to battle weight/health issues into his 30's....and who's likely to put up a 725-750ish OPS in the coming years? I don't think the upgrade is worth the money unless it's for an all-around superstar-caliber player with offensive and defensive skills in the OF or at catcher. Sandoval's a 12-18 homer guy now, which isn't FAR off what Conor could be expected to provide in the next year or so. The major difference is his defense, but is that really worth a nine figure contract for a team that hasn't approached that number for a single player? Personally I think the best route is to get two outfielders making one of them the primary DH/4th outfielder. That way when Eaton gets hurt you don't have to start Danks for 13-14 games in a row. Danks is better as a 5th outfielder. Could totally see us getting a Seth Smith or Matt Joyce to bethat kind of DH. I mean you already have a DH in Tank, but if you want to get more left-handed. Edited November 6, 2014 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:14 AM) $100-116 million for a 3B who's very likely to continue to battle weight/health issues into his 30's....and who's likely to put up a 725-750ish OPS in the coming years? I don't think the upgrade is worth the money unless it's for an all-around superstar-caliber player with offensive and defensive skills in the OF or at catcher. Sandoval's a 12-18 homer guy now, which isn't FAR off what Conor could be expected to provide in the next year or so. The major difference is his defense, but is that really worth a nine figure contract for a team that hasn't approached that number for a single player? Independent of all the other points you made - Sandoval's camp saying he's looking for $100M does not mean he'll get $100M. He'll still be too expensive for my liking, but him reaching nine figures would surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:32 AM) Independent of all the other points you made - Sandoval's camp saying he's looking for $100M does not mean he'll get $100M. He'll still be too expensive for my liking, but him reaching nine figures would surprise me. I don't know who will give it to him. Giants are only willing to go 3 years I guess. I'm guessing he signs same deal as Pence but with the Red Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 I was looking for a catch all player movement for this offseason. so without one I used this one. ok. Andrew Bailey and the yanks made so sort of a deal. Damn this is 1 player I was hoping for a special project type and had Coop's name on it. what I found was that he had 5 arm surgeries since 2005. mlb trade rumors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 So Troy is another bad contract guy? Keep signing these guys to mega deals, baseball owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) So Troy is another bad contract guy? Keep signing these guys to mega deals, baseball owners. Well he's also the best SS in baseball when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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