bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) So has anyone who ran as a Dem but ran away from Obama/Obamacare actually won a race? It's never seemed like a winning strategy to me and didn't appear to work last night, either. Dems timidity to boast laws they've passed, and timidity with immigration, has sank them when they recommended that caution would help. Oh well, midterms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will be hilarious when Dems will also be too timid to remotely deploy any of the blocking tactics GOP deployed because it may hurt their weakest seats which they'll lose anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Ehh. If Jim Webb or Elizabeth Warren runs, they will both have a better shot than Hilary in my opinion. Jim Webb would absolutely destroy her. Elizabeth Warren would not win, Webb will not run. Clinton I'm sure will run on war all the time and it seems like that's the appetite now. Indescriminately kill to show you are doing things! Strength, strength. She'll also lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 08:52 AM) Alabama Voters Pass Sharia Law Ban This also happened yesterday. TAKE THAT ISIS!!!!! Mississippi and Louisiana have to be pissed, that just ups the odds that ISIS goes after them first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 08:58 AM) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I love this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I voted for 2 democrats, 2 republicans and the rest independents last night, and one of the republican votes was merely because he/she was running against Lisa Madigan, I figured the republican candidate had a 0.00001% chance to get rid of her vs the independent, otherwise that would have been an independent vote, too. Voted yes to constitutional changes, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) Will be hilarious when Dems will also be too timid to remotely deploy any of the blocking tactics GOP deployed because it may hurt their weakest seats which they'll lose anyway. Bah, they'll do just about everything that was done the last few years. The Senate may let Obama veto a few things just because they're unhappy with him right now as it is, but it's abundantly clear no one cares about senatorial procedures any more. The one thing that might be an interesting long term shift is if Mitch knows its coming and changes some of the rules to cut out the things he's been doing for the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yea, I'm gonna call b.s. on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) I voted for 3 R's and 3 D's. All judges except one were no votes. Wait what? You voted for 3 D's? Who? QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:21 AM) I voted for 2 democrats, 2 republicans and the rest independents last night, and one of the republican votes was merely because he/she was running against Lisa Madigan, I figured the republican candidate had a 0.00001% chance to get rid of her vs the independent, otherwise that would have been an independent vote, too. Voted yes to constitutional changes, too. Curious what you don't like about Lisa Madigan. Or was it a proxy vote against Michael? QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:22 AM) Bah, they'll do just about everything that was done the last few years. The Senate may let Obama veto a few things just because they're unhappy with him right now as it is, but it's abundantly clear no one cares about senatorial procedures any more. The one thing that might be an interesting long term shift is if Mitch knows its coming and changes some of the rules to cut out the things he's been doing for the last 6 years. I'd love it if they removed the 60 vote threshold, which I personally think is a huge problem. But I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:29 AM) Wait what? You voted for 3 D's? Who? Curious what you don't like about Lisa Madigan. Or was it a proxy vote against Michael? I'd love it if they removed the 60 vote threshold, which I personally think is a huge problem. But I don't see it happening. She's only in that spot because of her father, and it was a vote against both of them. When she originally won that seat, she had no experience for the post, and beat a person that was much more qualified...I've never wanted her in since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Where I think losing the Senate really has the chance to hurt Democrats is with judicial appointments. They finally broke the log jam by getting rid of the filibuster for non-SC appointments, but it'll be very hard for Obama to get anyone else confirmed come January. And if one of the liberals on the SC steps down, who knows what'll happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 My votes, since people are throwing them out there. Not listing the offices where people were unopposed (like Biss, my state senator, and that loser Berrios for Assessor)... Governor: Rauner ® Attorney General: Madigan (D) Secretary of State: Webster ® Comptroller: Simon (D) Treasurer: Cross ® US Senate: Durbin (D) US House: Schakowsky (D) State House: Myalls ® *Vote all GREEN PARTY on Water District slots (G) 12th Judicial Subcircuit: Kaplan (D) All judges on retention OK I'll say again too, those last three lines, those should not be elected offices anyway. So that's 4 R, 5 D, and 1x3 G for me. That's actually more Dems than I thought I'd end up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:29 AM) Wait what? You voted for 3 D's? Who? Curious what you don't like about Lisa Madigan. Or was it a proxy vote against Michael? I'd love it if they removed the 60 vote threshold, which I personally think is a huge problem. But I don't see it happening. Lipinski for Congress White for Sec State Dart for Sheriff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Why the vote against Jesse White? I voted mostly Dems, gave the DuPage Forest Preserve President Cantore my vote because the FP system is pretty nice out here. Voted against one of the judges for retention because while he was still recommended by the Illinois bar association, he scored a 70 or something in impartiality and that seems pretty terrible. Yes on the amendments, yes on the advisory questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I voted against Dan Lipinski. The Republican running against him was pretty far right, but I just can't stand Lipinski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) Where I think losing the Senate really has the chance to hurt Democrats is with judicial appointments. They finally broke the log jam by getting rid of the filibuster for non-SC appointments, but it'll be very hard for Obama to get anyone else confirmed come January. And if one of the liberals on the SC steps down, who knows what'll happen. Yes, but at the very least there will be a D Prez picking it, heavy media pressure to conform to baseline, etc. That's why 2012 was so important, was basically all for defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I voted for Rauner, Madigan (who is actually my favorite Illinois politician, regardless of experience, she is maybe the best AG in the country IMO), White, Simon, Cross, Gutierrez, did not vote judges/water commission. Others not said were non competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 To be more specific: I vote for Rauner, Lipinski, White, and the person running against Madigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 09:57 AM) I voted for Rauner, Madigan (who is actually my favorite Illinois politician, regardless of experience, she is maybe the best AG in the country IMO), White, Simon, Cross, Gutierrez, did not vote judges/water commission. Others not said were non competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yeah. Well. A purge needed to happen. I would not have voted R in other circumstances, but this isn't wisconsin. Dems have large majority in house and senate. And with a large majority in house, senate and Governor position...they created 3 separate groups that sniped at each other and did nothing. They didn't even create an exchange. In 4 years I'll vote him out, but the dems need someone to rally against, because right now it's each other, and nothing is happening, and there is no excuse for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 10:03 AM) Yeah. Well. A purge needed to happen. I would not have voted R in other circumstances, but this isn't wisconsin. Dems have large majority in house and senate. And with a large majority in house, senate and Governor position...they created 3 separate groups that sniped at each other and did nothing. They didn't even create an exchange. In 4 years I'll vote him out, but the dems need someone to rally against, because right now it's each other, and nothing is happening, and there is no excuse for that. I'm mostly wondering what Rauner's going to do about the $4B crater not extending the income tax increase will leave in the budget. You're right, at least we're not like WI, MI, FL or god forbid Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) I'm mostly wondering what Rauner's going to do about the $4B crater not extending the income tax increase will leave in the budget. You're right, at least we're not like WI, MI, FL or god forbid Kansas Not sure, but it was unbelievable to me that Quinn couldn't find a winning coalition for any pension reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cabiness42 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Damn all those 58-59 year olds that didn't die! It's all their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Looking at it again, I'm not sure if that's percentage of that age group that turned out i.e. 12% of eligible voters under 30 voted or if it's the percentage of the people that actually voted i.e. 37% of yesterday's votes came from people 60 or older. Either way, Democrats need to figure out how they become a party that gets younger people to turn out for the midterms if they don't want to keep getting hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Looking at it again, I'm not sure if that's percentage of that age group that turned out i.e. 12% of eligible voters under 30 voted or if it's the percentage of the people that actually voted i.e. 37% of yesterday's votes came from people 60 or older. Either way, Democrats need to figure out how they become a party that gets younger people to turn out for the midterms if they don't want to keep getting hammered. I think it's the latter, 37% of yesterday's voters were 60+. Still, it's the Democrats own fault. They pass Obamacare, less old people die, and now there are more of them to vote Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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