GGajewski18 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/rockies...lowitzki-110514 Here we go. Rockies are listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 They will want a CarGo in his prime return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He is hurt all the time pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'm really against moving anything of value for CarGo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Dick is right. I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary. 16M in 2015 17M in 2016 20M in 2017 Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:39 PM) If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers Thats a bad deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Rasmus' career stats, and CarGo's career numbers away from Coors are almost identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Problem with CarGo is that the Rox are not going to be able to move him. If they trade one of their stars for a package like beau proposed, it looks really bad for them. That is basically scraps. But no team is going to flush 53 million on a guy like CarGo AND give up premium talent without a guarantee he returns to form next year. Basically, its a stalemate. He won't be moved this offseason, i'd "put my house on it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:34 AM) At Coors: .329/.387/.601/.988 Away from Coors:.258/.314/.437/.750 De Aza's career: .268/.330/.403/.733 ohhh I like the way you slid DeAza in. nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:31 PM) Dick is right. I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary. 16M in 2015 17M in 2016 20M in 2017 Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us. I'll take on the salary. Erik Johnson for Cargo. Boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:39 AM) If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn. on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn. on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect, I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 01:14 AM) I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around damn and I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 After the horrible mega deals like A Rod and Fielder, CarGo might have one of worst values in baseball. He can GTFO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Danks and Viciedo for Cargo straight up....if not they can keep paying him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Some team will probably give the Rox a couple MLB caliber players for CarGo once he proves he's healthy. Hopefully it isn't the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:26 AM) I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse. You're maybe thinking Carlos Gomez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'd take him as a salary dump, like a waiver claim type this. Throw them Joey DeMichele or something. But I wouldn't trade any of our top 10 prospects for him unless they are eating some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 07:03 AM) When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history. The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:01 AM) The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist Good one! With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 What is the annual salary of a jock manager? Also, I would not like him on team because he get's hurt all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:26 AM) Good one! With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs. Well yea, his name is Scott Boras. He has a spreadsheet of the jocks achievements and accomplishments, complete with bar graphs and pie charts, as well as all of the related sabermetric stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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