LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 coming back from the mets. 2 of the three listed. Rafael Montero - p Dilson Herrera - hitter, he can play all infield positions Marcos Molina - p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:56 PM) I went over to the Mets board to talk about Alexei. I told them that obviously that the Sox hold Alexei more valuable than the Mets so the asking price is going to be high. I told them that the asking price would probably start with Montero and Plawecki, and add a lottery ticket prospect. 2 members responded to me and said no chance they give all that up for Alexei. I even saw a proposal of Alexei and Avisail for Montero and Ceccini.... Lol, riiiiiight! Sox would be getting fleeced. Sounds like some of them enjoy speculating as much as some of us. I really don't see a deal happening. The Mets can upgrade elsewhere if they feel the Sox are asking for too much, which is fine with me since the Sox are not desperate to trade Alexei anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:06 AM) Lol, riiiiiight! Sox would be getting fleeced. Sounds like some of them enjoy speculating as much as some of us. I really don't see a deal happening. The Mets can upgrade elsewhere if they feel the Sox are asking for too much, which is fine with me since the Sox are not desperate to trade Alexei anyway. The only outfielder we could give them is Viciedo. I don't think they even have a need for an OF now though with Granderson, Lagares, and Cuddyer from left to right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:19 AM) The only outfielder we could give them is Viciedo. I don't think they even have a need for an OF now though with Granderson, Lagares, and Cuddyer from left to right. I have heard they plan on playing Cuddyer at 1B quite a bit as a platoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) I have heard they plan on playing Cuddyer at 1B quite a bit as a platoon. they have a 1b man who hit what, 30+ hrs. but part time i can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 09:31 PM) I'll take Montero and Mejia. Nope. Thats not enough. Montero profiles as a backend starter, Mejia is a bullpen guy who could have the chance to start sort of what Noesi was coming into last season. It is a very shallow market for SS's and Alexei may be the most valuable SS on the market given his contract. That would be a great deal for the Mets casting off spare parts to fill a whole at a premium position, but would not really help the Sox at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Montero is a nice starting point, but I think that's not enough for Alexei. The dude is coming off a career year. I understand the 'selling high' mindset, that is why the Mets would have add one of their top relievers in the deal as well or perhaps their top catching prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:48 PM) Montero is a nice starting point, but I think that's not enough for Alexei. The dude is coming off a career year. I understand the 'selling high' mindset, that is why the Mets would have add one of their top relievers in the deal as well or perhaps their top catching prospect. they need to use 2 players to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What if the Mets offered Montero, Gee to help fill out rotation and make room in New York, and another prospect? Thats the most realistic offer I could think of for Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN On Alexei Ramirez, #WhiteSox prefer young SPs like Syndergaard/Wheeler/Montero, while #Mets prefer to deal Niese/Gee/Colon. (1/2) But that's an early read on the situation. Not saying the gap is unbridgeable. Also #WhiteSox, like #Mets, in mode of trying to build contender. So while they'd deal Ramirez, it's not like he's burning a hole in pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN On Alexei Ramirez, #WhiteSox prefer young SPs like Syndergaard/Wheeler/Montero, while #Mets prefer to deal Niese/Gee/Colon. (1/2) But that's an early read on the situation. Not saying the gap is unbridgeable. Also #WhiteSox, like #Mets, in mode of trying to build contender. So while they'd deal Ramirez, it's not like he's burning a hole in pocket. i wonder who is going to blink first???? then there is the dodgers and oak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:19 AM) i wonder who is going to blink first???? then there is the dodgers and oak We don't need to blink so it would have be them. We can hold out as long as possible for thr best offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) We don't need to blink so it would have be them. We can hold out as long as possible for thr best offer. bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) bingo. Mets seem to have a lot of starting pitching depth Colon Gee Niese Wheeler Harvey Syndegaard Montero Familia Mejia (Though I'm not certain those last two are starters anymore) edit: looking at their top 10 prospects, there's guys I've never heard of who seem like they can be pretty good. Edited November 11, 2014 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) We don't need to blink so it would have be them. We can hold out as long as possible for thr best offer. We have Alexei under control for the next two years at WAY under market value. We don't even need to deal him. Either they knock our socks off, or they move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) Mets seem to have a lot of starting pitching depth Wheeler Montero wheeler and / or Montero will be very nice. i really like Dilson and i really think he start in the outfield next yr. the sleeper imo is Molina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) We have Alexei under control for the next two years at WAY under market value. We don't even need to deal him. Either they knock our socks off, or they move on. ohhh i like it when posters in soxtalk talk tough. but it is the truth. supply and demand. at least 4 teams can use a ss of Alexei talent. who wants him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:19 AM) i wonder who is going to blink first???? then there is the dodgers and oak It would definitely be the Mets to blink first. I mean they already gave up the 15th pick for Michael Cuddyer, there is big time pressure on their GM too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:14 AM) Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN On Alexei Ramirez, #WhiteSox prefer young SPs like Syndergaard/Wheeler/Montero, while #Mets prefer to deal Niese/Gee/Colon. (1/2) But that's an early read on the situation. Not saying the gap is unbridgeable. Also #WhiteSox, like #Mets, in mode of trying to build contender. So while they'd deal Ramirez, it's not like he's burning a hole in pocket. Mets have no business even mentioning Niese, Gee, or Colon because that doesn't fit the Sox plan. IMO, it's the Mets that is the team is desperate, not the Sox. Alexei for another 2 years I would love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Niese is young and cheap enough (Just turned 28 2 weeks ago, under team control till 2018 with 10.5M being where it max out) to be a little interesting. They would have to throw more on top of him though, whereas converesly I'd take Wheeler or Syndergaard straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 You just wait for the Mets to offer Wheeler straight up and you take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 05:18 PM) You just wait for the Mets to offer Wheeler straight up and you take it i am being perfectly honest here. would that be a fair deal? i am very guilty of over valuing the sox players and prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 1. The team hasn't gotten better on defense. 2. When has acquiring NL talent actually benefited the Sox? I think they are cursed in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:19 AM) The only outfielder we could give them is Viciedo. I don't think they even have a need for an OF now though with Granderson, Lagares, and Cuddyer from left to right. Agreed and that's the OF the have the most interest in dealing. QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) You just wait for the Mets to offer Wheeler straight up and you take it Bam! That's what I'm talking about. QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:22 AM) i am being perfectly honest here. would that be a fair deal? i am very guilty of over valuing the sox players and prospects. IMO, I take five years of control with a filthy 24 year old right handed starter in Wheeler over Alexei in a heartbeat. I would do cartwheels around the house if Hahn pulled off Wheeler for Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:33 AM) Agreed and that's the OF the have the most interest in dealing. Bam! That's what I'm talking about. IMO, I take five years of control with a filthy 24 year old right handed starter in Wheeler over Alexei in a heartbeat. I would do cartwheels around the house if Hahn pulled off Wheeler for Ramirez. Hahn has about as much chance of getting Wheeler for Alexei as he does of sending Jordan Danks to the Angels for Mike Trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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