Mets/LAD/NYy interested in Alexei, according to Levine

[2nd_city_saint787]

No, I'd agree that Niese is a 3-4. He's a nice starter and I wouldn't mind the Sox acquiring him in a separate deal, but you can't trade Ramirez straight up for him.

 

Certainly not straight up. I know this is in reply to something that got buried pages ago but I suggested Niese and Lagares+. I'd love Lagares but I'm kinda backing away from him being the 2nd piece now that VMart is off the market. I don't think they can significantly upgrade DH enough to be able to get by with Eaton and Lagares in the OF offensively. Defensively it'd be a lot of fun though.

[BlackSox13]

Niese has team options in 2017 and 18, so unless he blows up, that's 4 years of control.

My mistake and thanks for pointing it out. Makes the idea of Niese easier to swallow but as I said, IMO, Danks would have to be traded first and that's a whole other discussion.

 

If the Sox are unable to grab Wheeler or Snydergaard ( not counting on it), then I would focus on Montero and minor leaguer for Alexei.

[witesoxfan]

Certainly not straight up. I know this is in reply to something that got buried pages ago but I suggested Niese and Lagares+. I'd love Lagares but I'm kinda backing away from him being the 2nd piece now that VMart is off the market. I don't think they can significantly upgrade DH enough to be able to get by with Eaton and Lagares in the OF offensively. Defensively it'd be a lot of fun though.

 

If the Mets offered Niese and Lagares for Alexei Ramirez, you turn it into the Commissioner's office and ask questions later. The guy, hitting at a replacement level value, is already a 2 WAR player who's under team control for 4 more years. If/when he hits (because he still does), he adds even more value.

 

Hell, with Eaton and Lagares in the outfield, you damn near only need 2 outfielders with all that speed and range. Move Avisail to rover.

[witesoxfan]

Why does everyone think A.) the Mets don't value Lagares and B.) they would want to create another hole by trading him?

 

I have no idea, I was just commenting on the idea if he were included. I think it'd be safe to say he's one of the top 100 players in the game today and he may be one of the top 40-50 most valuable players. If he can remain a league average bat or develop to be a little above average, he's a building block type of player.

[GGajewski18]

Just off topic question real quick, are the GM meetings still going on until tomorrow, like an all week thing or have they finished?

[2nd_city_saint787]

Why does everyone think A.) the Mets don't value Lagares and B.) they would want to create another hole by trading him?

 

I think I'm the only one that suggested it and it was simply a thought were they not to give up Syndergaard/Wheeler.

 

I even asked in my Op if Niese/Lagares was even less of an offer than Sy or Wheeler straight up.

 

I admittedly don't know how to value guys who most of their value comes from D.

 

 

At least I didn't call him a back end of the roster player.

Edited November 13, 2014 by scs787

[witesoxfan]

Just off topic question real quick, are the GM meetings still going on until tomorrow, like an all week thing or have they finished?

 

They'll be done tomorrow. The GM Meetings are always typically quiet.

[Dunt]

Just off topic question real quick, are the GM meetings still going on until tomorrow, like an all week thing or have they finished?

 

They ended yesterday afternoon

[Dick Allen]

They ended yesterday afternoon

And everyone went to see the Cuban.

[GGajewski18]

They'll be done tomorrow. The GM Meetings are always typically quiet.

 

 

They ended yesterday afternoon

 

Well that's odd lol.

 

But back to Alexei, I really don't think we trade him unless Wheeler or Syndegaard is coming back in the trade. Unless Montero and a couple more interesting pieces are involved.

 

Alexei is a key part of the Sox success and has been a mainstay at SS for sometime now, the young players will need to look to him for leadership and guidance other than Sale and Abreu.

[Lillian]

Top 5 blockbuster trade ideas

 

4. Alexei Ramirez to the Yankees, Shane Greene to the White Sox

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/10123...o?tcid=tw_share

 

Take a look at his Minor League Stats. He consistently gave up a lot of hits. I'm not impressed. Doesn't look like he'd be much better than Noesi.

His limited time as a rookie, last year, was ok, but based on those Minor League stats, I wouldn't have great expectations.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Lillian

[GGajewski18]

Take a look at his Minor League Stats. He consistently gave up a lot of hits. I'm not impressed. Doesn't look like he's be much better than Noesi.

 

His WHIP was 1.4 this past season. A bit high.

[witesoxfan]

He's a ground ball pitcher, his velocity numbers look good, and his peripherals are really nice. I have no idea how or why everything clicked at the MLB level in his 15 games and 14 starts, but it's a bit fishy. He looks like a nice piece but I'd want a diversified return and he alone would not get Alexei.

[BlackSox13]

I watched video of Greene last night on mlb.com and noticed he does miss location a bit more than a starter should. Kid has a nice two-seam he throws 93/94 with downward movement, a nice little slider that fooled batters and thought I had seen a few cutters as well. I would gladly take Greene but the Yanks should send another player with him in a trade for Alexei.

 

Any chance the Sox could get the Yanks to bite on John Danks.

[LDF]

I watched video of Greene last night on mlb.com and noticed he does miss location a bit more than a starter should. Kid has a nice two-seam he throws 93/94 with downward movement, a nice little slider that fooled batters and thought I had seen a few cutters as well. I would gladly take Greene but the Yanks should send another player with him in a trade for Alexei.

 

Any chance the Sox could get the Yanks to bite on John Danks.

 

I think the yanks will need to add 2 more prospect.

[BlackSox13]

I think the yanks will need to add 2 more prospect.

I would love to snatch Clarkin away from the Yanks but there's no way the Yanks give up a kid like him for a 33 year old SS.

 

I wonder if the Sox could get JR Murphy along with Greene?

[Boopa1219]

I would love to snatch Clarkin away from the Yanks but there's no way the Yanks give up a kid like him for a 33 year old SS.

 

I wonder if the Sox could get JR Murphy along with Greene?

 

Mateo is a want

[Boopa1219]

most definitely. but I think the sox need that starting pitcher in the beginning

of the season.

 

I think that 2015, like the second half of 2013 and the entirety of 2014 is all about collecting assets, and that 2016 is going to be the year where the team starts competing again. I think that the Sox should be around .500 next year, and that they should be trying to acquire as much talent as possible because there are still some holes on the team and the Royals and the Tigers arent going anywhere.

 

If the Sox have to endure a slow first few months of the season because Syndergaard needed time in the minors, then I am all for it because the team is going to be better in the long run.

[LDF]

I think that 2015, like the second half of 2013 and the entirety of 2014 is all about collecting assets, and that 2016 is going to be the year where the team starts competing again. I think that the Sox should be around .500 next year, and that they should be trying to acquire as much talent as possible because there are still some holes on the team and the Royals and the Tigers arent going anywhere.

 

If the Sox have to endure a slow first few months of the season because Syndergaard needed time in the minors, then I am all for it because the team is going to be better in the long run.

 

this is all fantasy, and I love this kind of talk.

 

I do think the sox will make a push to acquire the necessary

players to make a run at the playoff.

 

whomever the sox get via trade, if they do trade, we will know then what that players

profile is.

 

until them I will continue to bite my nails and pray to the baseball gods for some great

additions to the club.

[LDF]

Mateo is a want

 

 

I would love to snatch Clarkin away from the Yanks but there's no way the Yanks give up a kid like him for a 33 year old SS.

 

I wonder if the Sox could get JR Murphy along with Greene?

 

for me I am looking outside the box beside the name that someone posted I would

like Jose A. Ramirez (he is really close to the majors and a nice arm) and 1 of there

int'l signee Antonio Arias or Juan Deleon

Edited November 14, 2014 by LDF

[2nd_city_saint787]

I'd much rather have Niese over Greene. Niese is just 2 years older.

[BlackSox13]

I'd much rather have Niese over Greene. Niese is just 2 years older.

Niese is two years older, much more expensive, left handed, pitched in the NL and also pitched in a pitchers park while Greene put up nice numbers pitching in the AL, in the most HR friendly park in all of baseball as well as in a very competitive ALE division.

 

Just my opinion but I take Greene hands down over Niese, no contest.

[Chisoxfn]

I am not trading Ramirez straight up for either.

[Heads22]

I'd sell off Sanchez to anyone who thinks he could be more than a defensive bench player.

[Andy the Clown]

I'd sell of Sanchez to anyone who thinks he could be more than a defensive bench player.

 

Greene would be a nice match for Sanchez. Ramirez? We can do better.