Jerksticks Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) Never mind a Shark segment, when are we going to get a bucket segment? Are you looking for many buckets of semien or just one big bucket of suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan White Sox reticent to give up high-level prospects because Samardzija under contract for only one year. Anderson, Montas may not be in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) What is taking so long!?! A whole day at the meetings and we haven't done anything!! o my god. settle it on down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:54 PM) o my god. settle it on down Sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) As everyone else has said, if the deal is Semien and pieces (Webb/Bassitt/Beck/Johnson/Davidson, etc.) then you have to do it. But not if you include Anderson, Montas and Hawkins. Then the White Sox would be left scrambling at 2B and/or the RH complement to Gillaspie. Would they sign another player for one year or do they gamble that Micah Johnson's ready? Do they truly believe Sanchez can be close to league average at 2B if they deem Johnson not ready until at least mid-season? Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:54 PM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan White Sox reticent to give up high-level prospects because Samardzija under contract for only one year. Anderson, Montas may not be in play. Good, I hope not. I can live with trading Semien and a couple low level prospects even though I really like Semien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Thank god, I want to keep Anderson and Montas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Billy Beane just hinted that they would like to make another move in a day or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Susan Slusser @susanslusser 3m3 minutes ago Beane hints #Athletics likely to make at least one more move in next day or two. Susan Slusser @susanslusser 2m2 minutes ago Beane confirms #Athletics targeting young shortstops in deals. After the Passan tweets…seems like Semien for Shark is agreed upon. What is the holdup? Edited December 9, 2014 by southside hitman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Are you looking for many buckets of semien or just one big bucket of suck? The latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:53 PM) Wite's fears confirmed…. I remember five years ago we all considered Jhonny Peralta a statue at SS and definitely a 3B/DH and he's since had a career renaissance in more ways than one. Sometimes players can and do improve defensively. Still would be hesitant to throw Semien out there for 145+ games at SS and expect him to have less than 35-40 errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) Susan Slusser @susanslusser 3m3 minutes ago Beane hints #Athletics likely to make at least one more move in next day or two. Susan Slusser @susanslusser 2m2 minutes ago Beane confirms #Athletics targeting young shortstops in deals. After the Passan tweets…seems like Semien for Shark is agreed upon. What is the holdup? How many young SS's do they have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) Susan Slusser @susanslusser 3m3 minutes ago Beane hints #Athletics likely to make at least one more move in next day or two. Susan Slusser @susanslusser 2m2 minutes ago Beane confirms #Athletics targeting young shortstops in deals. After the Passan tweets…seems like Semien for Shark is agreed upon. What is the holdup? Has to be the other pieces involved in the deal from the White Sox side, or maybe they're (the A's) asking for cash to come their way as well. Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) How many young SS's do they have? A few but what Billy does with them is a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) How many young SS's do they have? Their top two prospects are also SS's, but they're both not major league ready. Moneyball Version 3.1. Acquire five or six top minor league SS prospects and trade them away for various pieces you need at other positions. Also, see Cubs with Castro, Russell, Baez, Alcantara, etc. Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I don't really like giving up Semien. If they can lock up Samardizja I'm ok though. We will regret losing Marcus, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) If Marcus is the "centerpiece" of this deal for the Sox, you make the move. He's certainly not irreplaceable. Who's volunteering to drive him to the airport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Can something just happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) From a PR standpoint, the Passen tweets are probably coming out from a Sox source. Things may be stalling out a bit, Oakland wants Anderson and the Sox are coming off their price, so they put it out in the media that Anderson isn't moving. Passan's smarter than that. He's not Peter Gammons working trades in the media for the Red Sox. If anything, the A's fanbase would probably not accept that deal very easily...so it would be in Beane's interest to make it as soon as possible if Semien's actually the player he's targeting, rather than letting resistance build up against the move. Plus, it's not good for the players involved, either. Obviously, it comes with the territory, and can be spun positively that multiple teams have interest in a player or your name's constantly being mentioned in connection with trade talks. Better than being Josh Phegley. Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan Sources: If the White Sox do deal for Jeff Samardzija, return would be Marcus Semien and prospects. A's would slot Semien in at shortstop. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) If Marcus is the "centerpiece" of this deal for the Sox, you make the move. Every day, and twice on Sunday's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:05 PM) I'm in California but available if needed. Marcus will love my VW Golf... Only if it's a pink convertible Jetta or Mini Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:09 PM) Believe me, don't give them the benefit of the doubt. If they have information and it's from a source they have a relationship with, they will post it. When it comes to "trusted sources", 9 times out of 10, people don't just leak that stuff to do a favor to the reporter. The information leaking out is for a purpose, for one side of the deal. We saw first hand this week that Chicago reporters are perfectly willing to sit on a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'll call Marcus a cab to the airport if this deal goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:09 PM) Believe me, don't give them the benefit of the doubt. If they have information and it's from a source they have a relationship with, they will post it. When it comes to "trusted sources", 9 times out of 10, people don't just leak that stuff to do a favor to the reporter. The information leaking out is for a purpose, for one side of the deal. Except national writers when they get burned in this way one or two times tend to stay away from the flames...and this goes towards information from agents too, for example, the way the White Sox were used by Boras and the media to drive up the value of his eventual deal with the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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