Southwest Sider Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Just getting back to Ynoa for a second. Maybe I'm placing a little too much faith into our front office and talent evaluators, but there's no doubt to me that the White Sox were the team who wanted to expand this deal to include Ynoa. It could explain the weeklong or so holdup. The Sox see something that they really like in Ynoa and targeted him, and got their man. He's a good buy low candidate. Good for the Sox. The front office has to be very pleased right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:53 AM) So what's the deal with us trying to extend him? Will it be something that may happen during the regular season? I don't see it happening. From day one he has been adamant about testing free agency. He's gonna be 30 at the end of next season, it's his one chance for a big contract. Unless the Sox overpay to keep him, I just don't think it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) Just getting back to Ynoa for a second. Maybe I'm placing a little too much faith into our front office and talent evaluators, but there's no doubt to me that the White Sox were the team who wanted to expand this deal to include Ynoa. It could explain the weeklong or so holdup. The Sox see something that they really like in Ynoa and targeted him, and got their man. He's a good buy low candidate. Good for the Sox. The front office has to be very pleased right now. I think more of what you see is different front office philosophies. The White Sox gave up a lot of good, not great players in this deal while the A's gave up some high end talent but not a ton of it. There are statistics and tools and all kinds of things being evaluated differently here. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if all of the guys the Sox gave up ultimately turn into 2 WAR players each season, which is nice, but can create a bit of a roster crunch, whereas Samardzija is about a 4 WAR player and Ynoa has 2 WAR upside as a reliever and more than that as a starting pitcher. (I still think Semien is going to be the best of this bunch, but I kind of like the A's so at least he ended up there instead of like the Yankees or something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 In that case I can forgive him for going to Notre Dame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) I don't see it happening. From day one he has been adamant about testing free agency. He's gonna be 30 at the end of next season, it's his one chance for a big contract. Unless the Sox overpay to keep him, I just don't think it will happen. Well, he did just say it is a "dream come true", so maybe 6 years and $100M would sound appealing to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:27 PM) Well, he did just say it is a "dream come true", so maybe 6 years and $100M would sound appealing to him. Also, a dream come true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Samardzija is not taking anything less than Homer Bailey's deal which was 6 years $108 million. When it's all said and done it will fall into the 6 year $120 million-ish range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) Samardzija is not taking anything less than Homer Bailey's deal which was 6 years $108 million. When it's all said and done it will fall into the 6 year $120 million-ish range. Fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) Samardzija is not taking anything less than Homer Bailey's deal which was 6 years $108 million. When it's all said and done it will fall into the 6 year $120 million-ish range. At the moment, that is probably a little light. If he has a 4.25 ERA in May, he may jump at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Shouldn't he get whatever Shields gets this year? Or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 24m24 minutes ago Smarj told Hahn going to Sox "a dream come true" for him. An extension will be discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 James Shields will be 33 years old on December 20th. Looking at 4 year deal, but someone will give him 5 years and that team will be regretting it. Also, have give up a draft pick to sign Shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The extension will be announced at Soxfest you heard it here first. No insider info or anything just seems like the thing they would announce at Soxfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Do not underestimate Samardzija's loyalty to the White Sox. He will be here for a while. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:38 PM) Overall I love this trade. Samardzija brings us a solid #2 starter. Ynoa's starting days are likely over, but he can be real good in the bullpen. Semien- trade from depth with Sanchez and Micah Bassitt- could develop into back end starter, best suited in for bullpen Phegley- no future with the team with 5 catchers Ravelo- loved him but no way he was going to play here with Abreu. well i am a huge fan of these 2, but i can live with it. get us on the rd for the playoff. so what is the next move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) HOLY s***! Rick Hahn is a god. FFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUribe Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Shields sucks, the players we gave up are nothing special. Love the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Haven't seen any reaction from RV...he's with the group in SD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 670 just replayed Coopers interview. Dudes pumped up. I am too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Great trade, I like the pick up of Ynoa as he has good raw stuff a la Frank Montas. Could end up as a rotation piece or a solid high leverage reliever. MLB has updated their org prospect rankings: Chris Bassitt at 19 for the A's Ynoa not ranked, but was ranked as Oaklands #2 prospect at the end of last season. " Ynoa's promise has been clouded by injuries, including one that resulted in Tommy John surgery in 2010, that have limited him to just 39 2/3 innings in the four years since he signed. His fastball sits in the low-90s and he gets a good downward angle, thanks to his 6-foot-7 frame. He also throws a sharp curveball and changeup. Despite the problems, Ynoa still has the potential to be a frontline starter." Hes only thrown a total of 161 innings over his career and looks to have moved to the bullpen this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I've finally been unleashed (Thanks Jeremy, whoever you are on here).... Everything I've wanted to say the past 24 hours has pretty much already been said but I've got this to add... Something that may be of interest in the acquisition of Ynoa is that the Sox had been connected to his brother Huascar back in July. From what I can see he never signed with anyone so maybe getting his brother here will also help bring him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:54 PM) (Thanks Jeremy, whoever you are on here).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) I've finally been unleashed (Thanks Jeremy, whoever you are on here).... Everything I've wanted to say the past 24 hours has pretty much already been said but I've got this to add... Something that may be of interest in the acquisition of Ynoa is that the Sox had been connected to his brother Huascar back in July. From what I can see he never signed with anyone so maybe getting his brother here will also help bring him in. He signed with the Twins. http://m.twins.mlb.com/news/article/821544...ct-huascar-ynoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) Great trade, I like the pick up of Ynoa as he has good raw stuff a la Frank Montas. Could end up as a rotation piece or a solid high leverage reliever. MLB has updated their org prospect rankings: Chris Bassitt at 19 for the A's Ynoa not ranked, but was ranked as Oaklands #2 prospect at the end of last season. " Ynoa's promise has been clouded by injuries, including one that resulted in Tommy John surgery in 2010, that have limited him to just 39 2/3 innings in the four years since he signed. His fastball sits in the low-90s and he gets a good downward angle, thanks to his 6-foot-7 frame. He also throws a sharp curveball and changeup. Despite the problems, Ynoa still has the potential to be a frontline starter." Hes only thrown a total of 161 innings over his career and looks to have moved to the bullpen this season. If Ynoa can have a really strong season I think at his age he could be in the bullpen 2016 with his arm so lively and that would definitely offset the Bassitt loss. Edited December 9, 2014 by TheTruth05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) He signed with the Twins. http://m.twins.mlb.com/news/article/821544...ct-huascar-ynoa Well then.... I simply looked at his archives on mlbtraderumers and they didn't mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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