ptatc Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) I think Anderson has more value than that. Especially since Samardjia isn't even signed past 2015. It worked out trading highly thought of prospects for Freddy Garcia. Even though 2 of 3 were busts, it didn't work out trading for Nick Swisher. The way pitching is really starting to dominate, I think the Sox are better off keeping Anderson, signing a back end guy, and if they still want Samardjia, sign him next winter. I agree, if there is no contract extension however if the sox get an extension, proven top end starters are more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:22 AM) I think you far over valuing Anderson. I'm not saying he can't be a star but he is a years from even being brought to chicago. You don't trade a consensus top 100 prospect for a one year rental starting pitcher unless he signs an extension. Even with that, I would be pissed I think. Give me Samardzija and Upton, different story. Gotta give to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Really hope Anderson isn't going anywhere, would think him and Rodon are untouchable unless the package is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake He's pretty good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake If you sign him to an extension, you also will probably be sporting a 35 or 36 year old Shark on your roster in the future. I wouldn't want to pay market prices for him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Anderson is mystery. We have young talent under control but not a lot of high ceiling mystery. So Anderson is one of the few examples of that in the org Edited November 29, 2014 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Please don't make this happen. We're just starting to build the farm system back to a respectable level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake Why do you say that? Over 200 IP 202k/43bb 2.99 era 1.07 whip Seems to me he would be great sandwiched in between sale and Q. And he is only 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If the Sox are trading Anderson, they better be receiving Upton back too with an extension in place. Anderson is the only hitting prospect showing signs of development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Sockin @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) Source confirms Sox are in talks to acquire Samardjiza. http://bit.ly/1rHpn5o Sounds like a couple of apologies are due here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto. Maybe Barreto would be part of the trade, if this is even something. Or maybe even Lawrie. Lawrie seems like the type of player the White Sox would have been coveting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:33 PM) Sounds like a couple of apologies are due here. is there anyone here who thinks talks havent happened? We have no real updates til we have news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) You don't trade a consensus top 100 prospect for a one year rental starting pitcher unless he signs an extension. Even with that, I would be pissed I think. Give me Samardzija and Upton, different story. Gotta give to get. No I don't. But I admit I'm not as high on prospects as many others are as I think they bust as much has they become stars. Again this is only if the sox get an extension. I would not do it for the rental. Sale, Q, JS. Is a top of the line rotation Edit:wow that was bad typing from my tablet as I am at my daughter's dance e classes. Edited November 29, 2014 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:33 AM) Maybe Barreto would be part of the trade, if this is even something. Or maybe even Lawrie. Lawrie seems like the type of player the White Sox would have been coveting. This sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:35 AM) No I don't. Butiadmit I'm not ashighon prospects as many others are as I think theybustas mu has they become stars. Again this is only if the sox get an extension. I would not do it for the rental. Sale, Q, JS. Is a top of the line rotation wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Samardzija WAR by year: 0.5 -0.4 -0.5 0.6 2.8 2.6 4.1 This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If we're getting Shark & Upton, then we're giving up a f***ton more than just Anderson. And why would we empty half of our system to acquire two rentals? At least Shark is from the Chicagoland area and grew up a Sox fan. There's some chance he'd agree to extension here, the same can't be said for Upton. For better or worse, I think this Shark deal is really happening. But if more pieces are included it will be a guy like Reddick, not Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto. Stocking your minors with quality SS prospects is like burying gold for later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:36 PM) wat #spacebarfail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) Samardzija WAR by year: 0.5 -0.4 -0.5 0.6 2.8 2.6 4.1 This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better Those first 4 seasons is when he was a reliever. Last 3 when a starter full time. You are way off here. Edited November 29, 2014 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I wonder if KW's remarks are foreshadowing the Sox making some major moves, some of which might irk the fans similar to the Carlos Lee trade. “I don’t want to hear any more talk about rebuilding and certainly don’t want to take it on the chin any longer,” Williams said. “We’ve got to start making progress with more wins, and we’re going to have to do what we’ve got to do to get there.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) Samardzija WAR by year: 0.5 -0.4 -0.5 0.6 2.8 2.6 4.1 This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better I know you love WAR, but start valuing 33 starts and 215 innings too. It helps the bullpen, and you know, the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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