royoung Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:10 PM) Adams and Rodon can't be traded this off season anyway. Correct, since thy were from this past draft? They can be PTBNL…though wouldn't they have to play in the White Sox system until June? Which would just be stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:13 PM) I agree. They talk about his background. He doesn't have the "miles" on him most do at his age, but there are guys who are younger with a lot less "miles" than he has currently that are done or in the process of being done. It can go at anytime, although with some of these guys, you have to like their chances of staying fairly healthy. Maybe he is one of them. I do remember Alex Fernandez. He is one guy the White Sox were willing to go really long term on back in the days they were going 3 years max and they mentioned his mechanics. I think his agent was Boras, so it didn't work out. He blew out in Miami pretty quickly. Some of it can be miles. However its really more the age. As you get older the blood flow decreases throughout the body. The rotator cuff is in a vulnerable position due to the way it turns down from the scapula to the humerus. This is why it is such a common injury . In this deal if you want proven pitching you need to give up quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) Considering the years of control with Abreu, Sale, Q, Eaton, Rodon, etc etc, I wouldn't be surprised if the holdup here is the Sox working out the framework of a contract extension and the players are already in place. I'll believe that when I see it. I haven't seen an instantaneous trade/sign in 40 years following this team (Garcia is the only one who was close - he signed later that year) although I remember several when the Sox were "assured" he'd sign. Richie Zisk had a dream, after all. And regardless, the Sox should pay the value of 1 year of a #3 starter. No more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) I'll believe that when I see it. I haven't seen an instantaneous trade/sign in 40 years following this team (Garcia is the only one who was close - he signed later that year) although I remember several when the Sox were "assured" he'd sign. Richie Zisk had a dream, after all. And regardless, the Sox should pay the value of 1 year of a #3 starter. No more. That attitude is fine but then you are Ron Schueler as a GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) Some of it can be miles. However its really more the age. As you get older the blood flow decreases throughout the body. The rotator cuff is in a vulnerable position due to the way it turns down from the scapula to the humerus. This is why it is such a common injury . In this deal if you want proven pitching you need to give up quality. I get that, I just think the Sox need to hang on to the quality, and they can still pick up their target in a year. If they don't want to wait, they have to make 2015 more than just a half assed or 3/4 assed attempt to win. They have to really be "all in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The comments under the mlbtraderumors page is comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Also remember that if the Sox trade for Jeff and fail to re-sign him, they will get a draft pick for him, so you need to figure that into the value of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) The comments under the mlbtraderumors page is comical. Very...I like arguing on there though. Just remember Jerry never ever signs pitchers to long term deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'd give them Samardzija and Doolittle for Ramirez, Anderson, Adolfo, Semien, Sanchez, Montas, Rodon, and cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) As you get older the blood flow decreases throughout the body. Mine has completely stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Not for nothing, but B.J. Upton doesn't look all that great on paper. Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) Adams and Rodon can't be traded this off season anyway. Correct, since thy were from this past draft? unless it is a PTBNL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Just getting here, can someone please repost this Tim Anderson tweet everyone's talking about? Digging through the thread but can't find it and don't know how far to go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Just getting here, can someone please repost this Tim Anderson tweet everyone's talking about? Digging through the thread but can't find it and don't know how far to go back. It was couple of sad smiley faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:43 PM) Just getting here, can someone please repost this Tim Anderson tweet everyone's talking about? Digging through the thread but can't find it and don't know how far to go back. hugwatch #tweetwatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) Not for nothing, but B.J. Upton doesn't look all that great on paper. Am I missing something here? Everyone is hoping for Justin, not BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 said smiley faces were supposedly deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 And then someone originally described as his best friend tweeted "best of luck in Oakland, bud." Turned out to not likely be anyone he knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Tim Anderson@TimAnderson7·3 mins3 minutes ago Stay Down Until You Come Up LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Knuckles @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:44 PM) It was couple of sad smiley faces. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:44 PM) hugwatch #tweetwatch QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) And then someone originally described as his best friend tweeted "best of luck in Oakland, bud." Turned out to not likely be anyone he knew. Haha, thanks guys Edited November 29, 2014 by Eminor3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Knuckles @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:46 PM) Tim Anderson@TimAnderson7·3 mins3 minutes ago Stay Down Until You Come Up LOL. There was a 100 emoji at the end of that...so "Stay down until you come up 100"....maybe the sad faces had to do with some sort of injury. Or "Stay quiet till you know the deal is 100% legit" Edited November 29, 2014 by scs787 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:48 PM) There was a 100 emoji at the end of that...so "Stay down until you come up 100"....maybe the sad faces had to do with some sort of injury. Maybe when he realized the pizza was being overcooked, he pulled it out without an oven mitt and burned his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) Everyone is hoping for Justin, not BJ Jesus, I can be stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Everyone is hoping for Justin, not BJ Well, I'm hoping for a BJ . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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