flavum Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The cryptic tweet has jumped the shark. Call me when s*** is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) I never thought Tim Anderson's tweets would get so much attention. "roll tide." It's very clear to me we've traded him to the Norfolk Tides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Anyone but Anderson is my motto here. Semien's a nice player, but I think he's expendable, but I have a hard time saying the same with Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Just submitting for general consideration: After seeing the return the A's got for 2 years of Moss, if I think "Hey, I'll miss that guy" for more than five seconds about whoever we give up for Samardzija, I'm gonna be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) Tim Anderson @TimAnderson7 22s23 seconds ago I Was Taught To Be a Man, Stand On My Two Feet Like a Man. #Ready4unexpected f*** Again, tweet is now deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) Just submitting for general consideration: After seeing the return the A's got for 2 years of Moss, if I think "Hey, I'll miss that guy" for more than five seconds about whoever we give up for Samardzija, I'm gonna be pissed. proven starting pitching with his amount of career pitches is a TOTALLY different ballgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) If we do trade Anderson, we better get more than just Samardzija back. I'd love to have Josh Reddick in RF as opposed to Garcia next year. Plus he's a left handed bat you can stick near the bottom of the order to space out our right handed hitters down there. He's also got good pop. He can probably hit 20+ homers with ease at the Cell. Oakland is terrible for hitters. 1. Eaton CF (L) 2. Ramirez SS 3. LaRoche DH (L) 4. Abreu 1B 5. Reddick RF (L) 6. Garcia LF 7. Gillaspie 3B (L) 8. Semien 2B 9. Flowers C Edited December 8, 2014 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) proven starting pitching with his amount of career pitches is a TOTALLY different ballgame. No question he's a better player than Moss but it seems Oakland is just giving their guys away like Oprah. In light of that, if it seems like we've overpaid for Samardzija it will just be upsetting, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) No question he's a better player than Moss but it seems Oakland is just giving their guys away like Oprah. In light of that, if it seems like we've overpaid for Samardzija it will just be upsetting, that's all. I am okay with giving up Anderson "IF" his is the only major piece we are giving up (lesser prospects included) AND we are getting back Reddick and one of the A's bullpen arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Do we have any reason to suspect that Anderson knows the details of the potential trade? It always seems to me that players are caught off guard when they are traded. Could it be that he is just getting himself all worked up because he keeps seeing his name mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 My guess is we're trying to get him without giving up Anderson. But all these tweets then deleted are kind of interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) Do we have any reason to suspect that Anderson knows the details of the potential trade? It always seems to me that players are caught off guard when they are traded. Could it be that he is just getting himself all worked up because he keeps seeing his name mentioned? Probably the latter. But I have a crazy conspiracy theory that even though Beane keeps publicly denying it he would grant a window for an extension, the players in the deal are agreed upon and the Sox have been off the record negotiating with Shark. Which would explain the smoke, the hold up, and the cryptic tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I can't imagine wanting us to trade one of our best hitting prospects in awhile. I would be pretty disappointed about it because I am excited about Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) My guess is we're trying to get him without giving up Anderson. But all these tweets then deleted are kind of interesting. The tweet being deleted later certainly lends it even more crypticness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) If 1.5 years of Shark cost Addison Russell, it makes sense that one year (plus the advantage of being Shark's hometown team) ... would equal Tim Anderson. This is not from an i-like-the-Sox perspective but from the perspective that you need to believe there are multiple Shark offers out there. We have to beat other offers, and you dont beat them with Marcus Semien+Ravelo or whatever. You need to offer something of worth. From the A's perspective, which again you have to consider-- Tim Anderson helps Oakland save some face for losing Addison Russell. Edited December 8, 2014 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 "White Sox: Micah Johnson, Trey Michalczewski, Nolan Sanburn" I think I would be OK with that deal considering I do not think Hahn would acquire Shark unless he was very confident in resigning him. Oh my god yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Has there be any discussion that we may not actually be the "leader" in all of this, but may actually be behind Boston, who is waiting on a Lester decision? They probably have more tradeable pieces to throw at Beane than we do. I only mention that because it would seem that, if not Boston, what is Beane waiting for?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) Again, tweet is now deleted. Maybe his tweets self-destruct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:18 PM) If 1.5 years of Shark cost Addison Russell, it makes sense that one year (plus the advantage of being Shark's hometown team) ... would equal Tim Anderson. This is not from an i-like-the-Sox perspective but from the perspective that you need to believe there are multiple Shark offers out there. We have to beat other offers, and you dont beat them with Marcus Semien+Ravelo or whatever. You need to offer something of worth. From the A's perspective, which again you have to consider-- Tim Anderson helps Oakland save some face for losing Addison Russell. Russell+ got them 1.5 years of Samardzija AND a rental of Hammel (who was having one hell of a year at that point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) If 1.5 years of Shark cost Addison Russell, it makes sense that one year (plus the advantage of being Shark's hometown team) ... would equal Tim Anderson. This is not from an i-like-the-Sox perspective but from the perspective that you need to believe there are multiple Shark offers out there. We have to beat other offers, and you dont beat them with Marcus Semien+Ravelo or whatever. You need to offer something of worth. From the A's perspective, which again you have to consider-- Tim Anderson helps Oakland save some face for losing Addison Russell. This is well-reasoned but I don't think it placates me. Just because the A's overpaid for him in the first place doesn't mean the Sox need to get involved in a rebound overpayment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) Maybe his tweets self-destruct. Or maybe he's just a master troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) Has there be any discussion that we may not actually be the "leader" in all of this, but may actually be behind Boston, who is waiting on a Lester decision? They probably have more tradeable pieces to throw at Beane than we do. I only mention that because it would seem that, if not Boston, what is Beane waiting for?? There is no leader IMO in a trade until the trade happens. Anyone can slide in at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) Oh my god yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Go clean up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) This is well-reasoned but I don't think it placates me. Just because the A's overpaid for him in the first place doesn't mean the Sox need to get involved in a rebound overpayment. I said this earlier today and stand by it. If the White Sox were an 87 win team last year, Tim Anderson for Jeff Samardzija would make perfect sense. Prospect with talent who is raw, ~top 50 in the big leagues, 2-ish years away from being a big league rookie and 3 years away from probably making a difference, decent bust potential, in exchange for pitcher who outperformed contract last year, no injury history, could easily push team to 90 wins and into the playoffs, fits in the rotation, and could be offered a QO/return of a draft pick at the end of the year if he's unable to be resigned. That's a perfect deal for a team right on the cusp of winning a division/right on the cusp of competing to make. Even an 85 win team last year, that's perfectly sensible for the White Sox and fair value for the As. The problem continues to be we're closer to a 75 win team than an 87 win team. For that reason in my eyes there continues to be literally no version of this that makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) Russell+ got them 1.5 years of Samardzija AND a rental of Hammel (who was having one hell of a year at that point). Good point. And of course - i hope my logic is wrong. And perhaps they have interest in our super young types. That's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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