shysocks Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 He has the Sox going big on quantity and small on dollars, scooping up outfielders Rasmus (3/$36), Bonifacio (2/$12), and Chris Young (1/$5) while signing Kendrys Morales (1/$9). I have no violently negative reactions to any of those names at those prices, including Rasmus. No arms, but he limited his guesses to 55 top guys and a lot of the available relief pitchers weren't on that list. Bonifacio is a name that I haven't seen brought up around here much. Not sure how much of a fit he is. He's a good utility guy to have around as he can pretty much play every position and he would be especially useful as Eaton injury insurance, but a two-year deal seems unlikely to come from the Sox. I also can't see both Bonifacio and Young; I feel like the Sox would rely on someone internally rather than bringing in a second guy who doesn't move the needle much. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-free-agent-predictions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Jesus, people who actually do this for a living think Rasmus will get 3/36? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 12:49 PM) He has the Sox going big on quantity and small on dollars, scooping up outfielders Rasmus (3/$36), Bonifacio (2/$12), and Chris Young (1/$5) while signing Kendrys Morales (1/$9). I have no violently negative reactions to any of those names at those prices, including Rasmus. No arms, but he limited his guesses to 55 top guys and a lot of the available relief pitchers weren't on that list. Bonifacio is a name that I haven't seen brought up around here much. Not sure how much of a fit he is. He's a good utility guy to have around as he can pretty much play every position and he would be especially useful as Eaton injury insurance, but a two-year deal seems unlikely to come from the Sox. I also can't see both Bonifacio and Young; I feel like the Sox would rely on someone internally rather than bringing in a second guy who doesn't move the needle much. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-free-agent-predictions/ I don't like Rasmus, but if Martinez is unattainable, Morales makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Jesus, people who actually do this for a living think Rasmus will get 3/36? Based on his age and power I can totally see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I haven't really been into baseball last couple of years as much as 2004 - 2010 but Rasmus never really impressed me during his time in St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 LaRussa hated Rasmus. The Sox could have had Rasmus when they trade EJax but didn't want him when he was cheaper and more highly thought of as a prospect. I have a hard time believing JR signs off on Rasmus, especially for 3 years. This guy has a lot of issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I can see the Sox going after Rasmus, Morales as a fall back option if they cannot find something somewhere else but Young and Bonafacio I just don't see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:16 PM) LaRussa hated Rasmus. The Sox could have had Rasmus when they trade EJax but didn't want him when he was cheaper and more highly thought of as a prospect. I have a hard time believing JR signs off on Rasmus, especially for 3 years. This guy has a lot of issues. I think these are the telling signs. I'd personally have no problem gambling on Rasmus' talent on a one year deal, but there's no way I'd go 3 years and I doubt the Sox are even going to show interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:16 PM) I can see the Sox going after Rasmus, Morales as a fall back option if they cannot find something somewhere else but Young and Bonafacio I just don't see. Young is a guy the White Sox have pursued at least a little bit I think last year. I think that plays into the prediction. But it really doesn't make much sense unless there are some trades. Edited November 7, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Chris YOung is a fly ball pitcher. Not happening. Edit - I guess he's talking about the CF... doubt that as well. He's correct on the sox needs, but man he's got a lot of players who aren't very good. I mean, Bonnificio? Yikes. Edited November 7, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) Chris YOung is a fly ball pitcher. Not happening. Not Chris Young the pitcher, Chris Young the outfielder. There's a lot to dislike about Rasmus, but there's also a lot that's tantalizing. Can't make up my mind on him. If he ended up with the Sox I think I'd just trust that we did our homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:25 PM) Not Chris Young the pitcher, Chris Young the outfielder. There's a lot to dislike about Rasmus, but there's also a lot that's tantalizing. Can't make up my mind on him. If he ended up with the Sox I think I'd just trust that we did our homework. You know RAsmus is a headcase. I just wonder if he keeps it to himself or if he can infect the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Oh s***, I forgot about Chris Young the hitter. I was thinking of the pitcher. Makes much more sense now, doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) LaRussa hated Rasmus. The Sox could have had Rasmus when they trade EJax but didn't want him when he was cheaper and more highly thought of as a prospect. I have a hard time believing JR signs off on Rasmus, especially for 3 years. This guy has a lot of issues. I agree with this. We could have had him when he was more promising, and instead we decided we'd rather just be free of Mark Teahen. The ship has sailed there, methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I won't print their stats, but all four of those guys mentioned stunk last year. I know baseball is full of bad players, but the Sox probably should keep their own if it means picking up any one of those four guys. Rasmus and Kendrys Morales simply aren't the answer; they aren't even full time players. Young has never done it and don't we have enough Bonifacio types on our team already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 ~1. Bonifacio - have no opinion on him. I never factored him for the sox to get him. ~2. Chris Young - same as above. ~3. Kendrys Morales (1/$9) - a 1 yr deal. let him rebuild his value. a win / win deal. ~4. Rasmus the sox had a chance to get him before. but his baggage that comes with him deter that. I just don't know. what does anyone think of a 1 yr deal with a clause of the baggage coming into play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 02:27 PM) ~1. Bonifacio - have no opinion on him. I never factored him for the sox to get him. ~2. Chris Young - same as above. ~3. Kendrys Morales (1/$9) - a 1 yr deal. let him rebuild his value. a win / win deal. ~4. Rasmus the sox had a chance to get him before. but his baggage that comes with him deter that. I just don't know. what does anyone think of a 1 yr deal with a clause of the baggage coming into play? A couple of those interviews with Rasmus near the end of the season would give one the impression he doesn't exactly like playing baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 09:31 PM) A couple of those interviews with Rasmus near the end of the season would give one the impression he doesn't exactly like playing baseball. it is simple .... just quit. interesting thought, if that is his attitude, is the role of his father is to continue to berate him into playing???? then if by any remote answer is maybe yes, then it is a maturity issue or something deeper. kind of remind me a wimpy story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I like Chris Young only if we get Andre Ethier or someone else in need of a platoon partner. Rasmus, no thanks, when there are so many options out there via trade. I think Morales is a smart buy-low option if we still have room for a DH. I wouldn't want to spend money on a utility guy like Bonafacio until the team is actually competing. Semien can do that (unless he's starting at 2nd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 12/36 for Rasmus? I just can't fathom that for that player. Bonifacio has had 1 good offensive season in his career. Signing him is like betting to show. Hard to believe that Chris Young hasn't had a single season with an OPS over .800, but he hasn't. He's been falling apart the last few years. Dpn't see the point. K Morales has had some good years, but only 1 when he was anything special and that was 2009. I can see him for stop gap I guess. All the more reason why you need a vibrant farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 This isn't one of Cameron's better efforts, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) This isn't one of Cameron's better efforts, IMO. Agreed. Volquez back to San Diego was especially laughable. He was absolutely brutal there and they released him because he was so bad. It's rare you see someone get RELEASED by an organization and then signed to a contract by the same team within a year and a half after, let alone a lucrative, multi-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) Agreed. Volquez back to San Diego was especially laughable. He was absolutely brutal there and they released him because he was so bad. It's rare you see someone get RELEASED by an organization and then signed to a contract by the same team within a year and a half after, let alone a lucrative, multi-year deal. Also, he put Josh Johnson to SDP one a 1yr/$3m deal. Didn't they JUST decline his option at 1yr/$4m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 03:50 PM) Also, he put Josh Johnson to SDP one a 1yr/$3m deal. Didn't they JUST decline his option at 1yr/$4m? Yes. I know both sides were interested in a reunion next season to try and get him healthy and pitching, but why decline it if you're only saving $1 mill? Seems like it was a piece he put together when he was hungover and just said "f*** it, here it is" and put it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Jesus, people who actually do this for a living think Rasmus will get 3/36? Haha that was my exact prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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