hi8is Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) Don't recall this being posted. Talks about the potential for a Sox/Dodgers trade. http://lasordaslair.com/2014/11/09/alexei-...rtstop-dodgers/ Thanks for posting this. For everyone who's yet to read it.... Here's the hi8is cliff notes: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 09:28 PM) Guerra and Belisario were maligned enough... League, MAYBE. But Wilson, not much interest. His performance really declined, as well as his velocity, in 2014. I'd love to get JP Howell from their bullpen but probably unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Do we think Ethier's last year is an aberration or a trend? I don't mind how he fits in our lineup. He was one of the most consistent players you're going to find for 6 years straight putting up a wRC+ between 120 to 134. Last year he had a bad April, a good May, a bad June, and then after that he only started 22 games the rest of the season because of their logjam. You can't be sure if any player is going to return to form, but he's definitely had a consistent track record. If you ask me who's going to have the best year next year (given that they get regular playing time) between Ethier, Crawford, Markakis, Melky, Morse, Rasmus, Aoki, and Travis Snider, Melky might be my top bet, and Ethier would be 2nd. Edited November 13, 2014 by Vance Law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 09:54 PM) Thanks for posting this. For everyone who's yet to read it.... Here's the hi8is cliff notes: Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 04:54 AM) Thanks for posting this. For everyone who's yet to read it.... Here's the hi8is cliff notes: ah the old hi8s finally show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 05:19 AM) He was one of the most consistent players you're going to find for 6 years straight putting up a wRC+ between 120 to 134. Last year he had a bad April, a good May, a bad June, and then after that he only started 22 games the rest of the season because of their logjam. You can't be sure if any player is going to return to form, but he's definitely had a consistent track record. If you ask me who's going to have the best year next year (given that they get regular playing time) between Ethier, Crawford, Markakis, Melky, Morse, Rasmus, Aoki, and Travis Snider, Melky might be my top bet, and Ethier would be 2nd. 100% agree. and I would add Crawford as #3 in having a good yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 09:22 PM) Don't recall this being posted. Talks about the potential for a Sox/Dodgers trade. http://lasordaslair.com/2014/11/09/alexei-...rtstop-dodgers/ I don't really see in there were the teams have talked. I see one writer mention they are a good fit, and then a bunch of speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 If Andrew Friedman is half as good as his hype, I don't see how the White Sox get useful parts for next to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:19 PM) He was one of the most consistent players you're going to find for 6 years straight putting up a wRC+ between 120 to 134. Last year he had a bad April, a good May, a bad June, and then after that he only started 22 games the rest of the season because of their logjam. You can't be sure if any player is going to return to form, but he's definitely had a consistent track record. If you ask me who's going to have the best year next year (given that they get regular playing time) between Ethier, Crawford, Markakis, Melky, Morse, Rasmus, Aoki, and Travis Snider, Melky might be my top bet, and Ethier would be 2nd. He also had attitude issues. I think he is a good bounce back candidate and you can likely get him cheap, along with cash. Fits in nicely in our order too and I expect him to be closer to the player he was with a change of scenery but that is just my presumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) If Andrew Friedman is half as good as his hype, I don't see how the White Sox get useful parts for next to nothing. LOL. The best 50 players in baseball will be on the Dodgers & Cubs rosters and all of the other idiot GMs will be left to fight for the scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) I don't really see in there were the teams have talked. I see one writer mention they are a good fit, and then a bunch of speculation. I never said the teams had talked so I have no idea what made you think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 04:51 PM) LOL. The best 50 players in baseball will be on the Dodgers & Cubs rosters and all of the other idiot GMs will be left to fight for the scraps. and the sCrubs will still not win a WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 01:16 PM) and the sCrubs will still not win a WS. Sure they will... On Xbox, play station, nes, genesis, Atari 2600, colecovision, commodore 64 and intellivision. You just have to " wait til next year". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) Sure they will... On Xbox, play station, nes, genesis, Atari 2600, colecovision, commodore 64 and intellivision. You just have to " wait til next year". nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) He also had attitude issues. I think he is a good bounce back candidate and you can likely get him cheap, along with cash. Fits in nicely in our order too and I expect him to be closer to the player he was with a change of scenery but that is just my presumption. We've been agreeing too much lately. What are the attitude issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in that Dodgers outfield other than Crawford seems to have "pouting/attitude" issues because they all want to play every single day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 10:18 PM) Everyone in that Dodgers outfield other than Crawford seems to have "pouting/attitude" issues because they all want to play every single day. Well, that's too bad, because the best fit may be Ethier. He is a left handed bat that could hit behind Abreu. He's not the hitter I had hoped for, but he would do vs. RH pitching. However, if he thinks that he's going to face LH pitching on the Sox, he can go ahead and pout. He is not a viable option against LH pitching. He could work, platooned with Semien or even Shuck, who hits lefties, even though he is left handed, himself. However, Ethier is not an every day player, especially hitting behind Abreu. if he faces lefties, he should be batting way down at the bottom of the order. Get the Dodgers to kick in some money, and tell Ethier to shut up and play when and where he's told. Geez, I hate these modern day prima donnas!! Edited November 14, 2014 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 12:08 PM) Well, that's too bad, because the best fit may be Ethier. He is a left handed bat that could hit behind Abreu. He's not the hitter I had hoped for, but he would do vs. RH pitching. However, if he thinks that he's going to face LH pitching on the Sox, he can go ahead and pout. He is not a viable option against LH pitching. He could work, platooned with Semien or even Shuck, who hits lefties, even though he is left handed, himself. However, Ethier is not an every day player, especially hitting behind Abreu. if he faces lefties, he should be batting way down at the bottom of the order. Get the Dodgers to kick in some money, and tell Ethier to shut up and play when and where he's told. Geez, I hate these modern day prima donnas!! man you would be a tough coach. Edited November 14, 2014 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) If Andrew Friedman is half as good as his hype, I don't see how the White Sox get useful parts for next to nothing. especially if he going to make a trade. he is going to be very tough. to show he is not a push over to be taken advantage of. the problem is, he has no leverage to play hard ball. he has 3 outfielders contracts that is like an anchor around the dodgers neck. he has 2 prospect that should be starting. if he is going to play hard ball, then the dodgers should be prepare to buy out some contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 06:08 AM) especially if he going to make a trade. he is going to be very tough. to show he is not a push over to be taken advantage of. the problem is, he has no leverage to play hard ball. he has 3 outfielders contracts that is like an anchor around the dodgers neck. he has 2 prospect that should be starting. if he is going to play hard ball, then the dodgers should be prepare to buy out some contracts. Peterson definitely should be playing. Van Syke's probably more of a 4th although he would be playing a lot more for many teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) Peterson definitely should be playing. Van Syke's probably more of a 4th although he would be playing a lot more for many teams. and Scott Schebler - of. there was an article last week that said the dodger need to get Pederson and Schebler starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 On a sidenote, I really don't get people complaining about the Dodgers OF'ers wanting to play and being unhappy about sitting. They didn't sign 100M deals to sit on benches and not play everyday. They were put in this position by Dodgers management who brought in too many guys for an area (part of that was due to need because of various injuries, etc) but the reality is those guys are starters in the league and are paid to do so. It is perfectly fair for them to want to do it. Ethier played the good guy role back in 2012 and then asked to be traded last off-season. Dodgers didnt' do so and he was very very unhappy and it is no surprise his performance dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) On a sidenote, I really don't get people complaining about the Dodgers OF'ers wanting to play and being unhappy about sitting. They didn't sign 100M deals to sit on benches and not play everyday. They were put in this position by Dodgers management who brought in too many guys for an area (part of that was due to need because of various injuries, etc) but the reality is those guys are starters in the league and are paid to do so. It is perfectly fair for them to want to do it. Ethier played the good guy role back in 2012 and then asked to be traded last off-season. Dodgers didnt' do so and he was very very unhappy and it is no surprise his performance dropped. I agree with this 100% The Dodgers would have to take Danks and kick in cash, or just kick in a lot of cash, for me to take Ethier. That being said, I'd still do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 06:39 PM) I agree with this 100% The Dodgers would have to take Danks and kick in cash, or just kick in a lot of cash, for me to take Ethier. That being said, I'd still do it. do either or buy them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 10:41 PM) Figure out a trade where the Sox get Kemp, AJ Ellis, and Arruebarrena and the Dodgers get Alexei and John Danks. Just bumping this for no particular reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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