southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane 3m3 minutes ago White Sox's Chris Sale finishes 3rd in AL Cy Young voting behind winner Corey Kluber and Felix Hernandez, who was second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Corey Kluber? The voters should be embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Absolute joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Why would anyone be mad about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I guess the days of advanced stats are here? Felix has slight advantage in traditional stats, but Kluber wins out bWAR and fWAR easily. It's either that or much of voting is done based on park factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Both Corey and Felix were deserving and since neither wear a Sox uni, who won means less than zero to me. Congrats to Kluber though, dude had a hell of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Kluber winning is not a joke, not even close. If I had to pick between Kluber and Sale to win a game, it'd be Sale. But the Cy Young award isn't about that. It's about your body of work over a season. And Kluber's body of work included 70 more innings pitched. That's like pitching 10 more starts. That has a ton of value, especially when the guy pitching those innings had a 2.44 ERA, 2.35 FIP, and led the league in strikeouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) The two voters that took Sale 2nd are the real embarrassment. I'm glad it didn't cost Kluber an award he deserved just as much as Felix. http://bbwaa.com/14-al-cy/ Edited November 13, 2014 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) Kluber winning is not a joke, not even close. If I had to pick between Kluber and Sale to win a game, it'd be Sale. But the Cy Young award isn't about that. It's about your body of work over a season. And Kluber's body of work included 70 more innings pitched. That's like pitching 10 more starts. That has a ton of value, especially when the guy pitching those innings had a 2.44 ERA, 2.35 FIP, and led the league in strikeouts. Yup. To me Sale is the 2nd best pitcher in baseball at the moment but his body of work this season wasn't as good as Kluber or Felix. This was the correct vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Sale just made some money: Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) 2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 05:53 PM) Sale just made some money: Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) 2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection Good! Kid deserves it all. And whatever we end up paying will still be under market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) Kluber winning is not a joke, not even close. If I had to pick between Kluber and Sale to win a game, it'd be Sale. But the Cy Young award isn't about that. It's about your body of work over a season. And Kluber's body of work included 70 more innings pitched. That's like pitching 10 more starts. That has a ton of value, especially when the guy pitching those innings had a 2.44 ERA, 2.35 FIP, and led the league in strikeouts. QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:21 PM) The two voters that took Sale 2nd are the real embarrassment. I'm glad it didn't cost Kluber an award he deserved just as much as Felix. http://bbwaa.com/14-al-cy/ QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:25 PM) Yup. To me Sale is the 2nd best pitcher in baseball at the moment but his body of work this season wasn't as good as Kluber or Felix. This was the correct vote. Agreed with all of this. I don't get how anyone can see it any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) Sale just made some money: Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) 2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection Whew. At first I read it as his 2015 salary going up to $15 million, which would have cut out another $9 million in payroll. Then I reread it more carefully. Congrats to Chris and his agent (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 You have to believe he will win a couple before his career is over. Hopefully with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 FYI. Quintana has the same clause in his contract for his 2020 option. Might be a little harder for him to achieve it than Sale, but I wouldn't be surprised is he got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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