Ozzie Ball Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2014/...ormance-update/ A quick look back at the 2014 draft picks and how each player performed in their professional debut. Not a lot of upside after Rodon/Adams and I'd be surprised if there's an impact bat in this class. Quite a few college pitchers with interesting statistical profiles in the later rounds though. I plan to do the same thing for the 2013 class and see how those prospects look now that we have a full season of data. Hope you enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 A look at how all the 2014 draft picks performed this year, from Jeff at FutureSox. Definitely worth a read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I pinned a thread in PHT too. Thanks Jeff! I'll merge the threads later, good to double-cover for now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Great read guys. I know that they are just prospects and its really early but offensively every single position player was a bit under whelming. Would have liked to see that the Sox have a standout position guy in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) Great read guys. I know that they are just prospects and its really early but offensively every single position player was a bit under whelming. Would have liked to see that the Sox have a standout position guy in there somewhere. I wouldn't read a ton into that. The key guys the Sox drafted - Rodon, Adams and Fry - were all pitchers. And yeah, it is really, really early. Next year will tell us more with these guys. Also, Jake Peter had arguably one of the top 3 overall performances in the system, and he was a 7th round infielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Thanks for the rundown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 This Louis Silverio guy... what's up with him? That's a nice performance for a guy selected almost 1000th in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm not sure I understand how Carlos Rodon is not on that list. At 150 IP next season, I'm sure he can produce a 1.3 WAR or whatever Trayce Thompson came in as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Jeff is clearly from the U.K. Otherwise, nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Were there any players who were picked after these guys (referring to 1st round picks only) that aren't completely irrelevant/injured in their respective teams systems up to this point? 2007 - Aaron Poreda (1st round, 25th overall) 2008 - Gordon Beckham (1st round, 8th overall) 2009 - Jared Mitchell (1st round, 23rd overall), 2009 - Josh Phegley (1st round Supp. pick, 37th overall) 2011 - Keenyn Walker (1st round Supp. pick, 47th overall) 2012 - Courtney Hawkins (1st round, 13th overall) 2013 - Tim Anderson (1st round, 17th overall) Not mentioning Rodon as he's still untested obviously the draft is more/less a lottery ticket, but this team is notorious for high draft picks busting out due to either injuries, or the inability to develop them (especially position players) Edited November 15, 2014 by Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 QUOTE (Real @ Nov 15, 2014 -> 07:30 AM) Were there any players who were picked after these guys (referring to 1st round picks only) that aren't completely irrelevant/injured in their respective teams systems up to this point? 2007 - Aaron Poreda (1st round, 25th overall) >>> Rick Porcello FYI - Giancarlo Stanton 2 rd, 76 player pick 2008 - Gordon Beckham (1st round, 8th overall) >>>> few mlb players 2009 - Jared Mitchell (1st round, 23rd overall), >>>>> Trout 2009 - Josh Phegley (1st round Supp. pick, 37th overall) >>> couple serviceable arms 2010 - Chris Sale 2011 - Adam Dunn signing 2011 - Keenyn Walker (1st round Supp. pick, 47th overall) >>> none comes to mind 2012 - Courtney Hawkins (1st round, 13th overall) >>> Marcus Stroman, Michael Wacha only 2 I recognize 2013 - Tim Anderson (1st round, 17th overall) >>>> none I recognize Not mentioning Rodon as he's still untested obviously the draft is more/less a lottery ticket, but this team is notorious for high draft picks busting out due to either injuries, or the inability to develop them (especially position players) there is luck mostly with picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am not surprised to see that there are no impact bats in this class, although I am high on Jake Jarvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 12:01 AM) I am not surprised to see that there are no impact bats in this class, although I am high on Jake Jarvis. Why, exactly? Not that I'm saying you shouldn't be, but what specifically have you seen/read/heard to give you this feeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 QUOTE (Real @ Nov 15, 2014 -> 01:30 AM) Were there any players who were picked after these guys (referring to 1st round picks only) that aren't completely irrelevant/injured in their respective teams systems up to this point? 2007 - Aaron Poreda (1st round, 25th overall) 2008 - Gordon Beckham (1st round, 8th overall) 2009 - Jared Mitchell (1st round, 23rd overall), 2009 - Josh Phegley (1st round Supp. pick, 37th overall) 2011 - Keenyn Walker (1st round Supp. pick, 47th overall) 2012 - Courtney Hawkins (1st round, 13th overall) 2013 - Tim Anderson (1st round, 17th overall) Not mentioning Rodon as he's still untested obviously the draft is more/less a lottery ticket, but this team is notorious for high draft picks busting out due to either injuries, or the inability to develop them (especially position players) It's hard to know for sure this early on, but the two guys who were drafted with the Sox second pick the last two years - Tyler Danish and Spencer Adams - are both very talented prospects, Tim Anderson could easily be a top 50 prospect (if not held in even higher regard), and Rodon is likely going to end up being a top 10-20 prospect as well. They've been much better the last two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Nov 15, 2014 -> 05:10 PM) Why, exactly? Not that I'm saying you shouldn't be, but what specifically have you seen/read/heard to give you this feeling? I read up on him before the draft and even more so after the draft and a lot of sites said that he was an advanced hitter deposited being a two way prospect in high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) I wouldn't read a ton into that. The key guys the Sox drafted - Rodon, Adams and Fry - were all pitchers. And yeah, it is really, really early. Next year will tell us more with these guys. Also, Jake Peter had arguably one of the top 3 overall performances in the system, and he was a 7th round infielder. And let's not forget the Eddy Alvarez signing, who is at least intriguing at this point. What do you think of him, BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 10:56 PM) And let's not forget the Eddy Alvarez signing, who is at least intriguing at this point. What do you think of him, BTW? I normally don't like the idea of reading a ton into stats for a player's first year in the system. However in Alvarez' case, you can't ignore that he had one of the best overall offensive seasons in the entire systems, while having gone three years without picking up a bat. And did part of that in A ball. He also had only one year of college ball, and that was JuCo. The fact that his contact rate was good and he drew plenty of walks are encouraging as well. Add to that the obvious athleticism, and valuable experiences in very high level sports competition, and I think he's a guy very much worth watching. The fact that he was 23 in A ball is a factor, but due to his unusual progression, his effective age is much younger. When we come around to ranking time in January, he's going to be a guy I'd consider for the back end of the T25/T30. Not fully sure he'll make it, but he'll at least be in the discussion. His defense is a little raw, but they will take some time next spring to see where he may be best to play, and then he can get regular play there. He does have natural speed (duh), but he's been away from the game too long to be an effective base stealer just yet. There is serious potential there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 10:56 PM) And let's not forget the Eddy Alvarez signing, who is at least intriguing at this point. What do you think of him, BTW? Also this is a good opportunity to add, you can read more about him in our interview with Eddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) Also this is a good opportunity to add, you can read more about him in our interview with Eddy. Thanks, and I did read that when it came out. His experience in honing his skill to the world-class Olympic level could be a big intangible in his favor, I'm thinking. He's one guy I won't mind seeing them move fast through the system. Maybe he can handle it. Of course want to see him in more age-appropriate league as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he's outworking every other prospect this offseason, trying to make up for lost time. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about his potential next March. Edited November 24, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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