Whisox05 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Jon morosi White Sox heavily involved in market for left-handed relief pitching. Currently have only 2 LH relievers on roster (Surkamp, Snodgress). https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/534029271740993536 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If Hahn can somehow pull off signing Miller, that would be amazing. The comments underneath are interesting, what about Bastardo from the Phillies. He's an interesting arm to look at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) If Hahn can somehow pull off signing Miller, that would be amazing. The comments underneath are interesting, what about Bastardo from the Phillies. He's an interesting arm to look at too. I don't even need Andrew Miller. I'd be happy with Zach Duke. Real happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Jon morosi White Sox heavily involved in market for left-handed relief pitching. Currently hreplace y 2 LH relievers on roster (Surkamp, Snodgress). https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/534029271740993536 i believe the Braves have 3-4 guys on their 40 man roster that could be available to as I read the other day they are looking to move relievers for backend starters to replace Santana innings and Beachy/Medlen innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Miller and Duke please. I would be happy to get just one of them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'm a bit weary of Duke, good last year, a dumpster fire the year before, great the year before, then trash the rest of his career, but he's certainly worth a shot assuming he doesn't get a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 07:03 PM) i believe the Braves have 3-4 guys on their 40 man roster that could be available to as I read the other day they are looking to move relievers for backend starters to replace Santana innings and Beachy/Medlen innings it was also said then, maybe by another source that the Braves will look for max return. so again at what price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'll take Andrew Miller thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'm a bit wary of giving multi-year deals to middle relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (spiderman @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) I'm a bit wary of giving multi-year deals to middle relievers. I don't like giving any reliever more than 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Jake Diekman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I don't like giving any reliever more than 2 years. How many years is Miller likely to get? I'd prefer 1 year deals, but I know that excludes guys like Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 08:33 PM) I don't like giving any reliever more than 2 years. i guess i would be a SOB as a gm and i would run the team into a drain. i too am against that for a reliever esp one in their 30+ yrs. if it was a young pitchers, it needs to be a situation by situation case. whether the sox thinks like that, it all depends on the market and what team are willing to spend. hence supply and demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (spiderman @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) How many years is Miller likely to get? I'd prefer 1 year deals, but I know that excludes guys like Miller. At least 3, probably 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) At least 3, probably 4. Knowing they have at least $40 million to spend this off-season, I'm resigned that they are going to overpay whether it's on middle relievers or veterans past their peak years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (spiderman @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:53 PM) Knowing they have at least $40 million to spend this off-season, I'm resigned that they are going to overpay whether it's on middle relievers or veterans past their peak years. I don't think they're getting Andrew Miller. I think Joe Thatcher may be a better/cheaper move for the Sox. Posted a 9.4 K/9 and a 1.1 BB/9 last year w/ the Diamondbacks and a 2.63 ERA. He finished the year w/ the Dodgers and was terrible in only 6 innings. Edited November 16, 2014 by Chilihead90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 09:07 PM) I don't think they're getting Andrew Miller. I think Joe Thatcher may be a better/cheaper move for the Sox. Posted a 9.4 K/9 and a 1.1 BB/9 last year w/ the Diamondbacks and a 2.63 ERA. He finished the year w/ the Dodgers and was terrible in only 6 innings. that will be a very good option. remember the team, the overall team and their performance will be much better than last yr. the sox have a great foundation set and with new additions, the team is going to be better. with all that, the sox don't need a kick arse closer, but very good pitchers who can pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) The Sox are not an organization that can afford to pay for Andrew Miller types. I trust Hahn to act accordingly. Except they can afford it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You almost invariably overpay for the top guys in the reliever market, but there are always great values just after that first tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 02:51 PM) You almost invariably overpay for the top guys in the reliever market, but there are always great values just after that first tier Sure and obviously getting more than one reliever is probably in the works. I think if they dont sign Miller it wont be for a lack of trying. I just dont think they'll try what they did last year again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) Sure and obviously getting more than one reliever is probably in the works. I think if they dont sign Miller it wont be for a lack of trying. I just dont think they'll try what they did last year again. Yeah I think it will certainly look like we tried to address the pen by the end of the offseason, which likely means signing at least one recognizable name to a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 04:00 PM) Yeah I think it will certainly look like we tried to address the pen by the end of the offseason, which likely means signing at least one recognizable name to a contract That is kinda what they did last year, Scott Downs is at least a consistent name who had been around for a decade+ and quite reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I'm with Baron on this. The Sox blew 21 save opportunities in 2014 and have money to spend so spend it wisely and not on some cheap s*** fresh off the bargain basement scrap heap. If they converted just half (10/11) of those opportunities, they end the season with 83-84 wins and fan base with a much more positive outlook on 2015. Edited November 16, 2014 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) I'm with Baron on this. The Sox blew 21 save opportunities in 2014 and have money to spend so spend it wisely and not on some cheap s*** fresh off the bargain basement scrap heap. If they converted just half (10/11) of those opportunities, they end the season with 83-84 wins and fan base with a much more positive outlook on 2015. I know it sounds like a nice easy thing to do, oh just don't blow 1/2 of those saves, but go a step deeper. Exactly 1 team in all of MLB had 11 blown saves or fewer - the Padres. Even the Royals tallied more blown saves than that. So to say yours a different way, "If their bullpen was replaced by a bullpen even better than the Royals, they'd have been above .500!". Does that put into context how truly huge of a jump that would require? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) They can also afford Max Scherezer, that doesn't make signing him financially prudent. Except they dont really need a Max Scherzer. They need relief pitching in the worst way and it seems they understand they have to put funds that way. How much do you want to bet that when they sign a relief pitcher it's going to be a hefty sum of money for over 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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