Dodgers aggressively pursuing Alexei

[GreenSox]

That post was purely to stir people up. Nothing more.

The post, labelled "I WISH" this guy was Met's GM was meant to bring a little levity into the joint.

 

And to point out, using a hyperbolic tweet, that the Sox are in strong position with Alexei.

 

Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast of which overrated rent can we unload the farm for.

Edited November 25, 2014 by GreenSox

[southsider2k5]

The post, labelled "I WISH" this guy was Met's GM was meant to bring a little levity into the joint.

 

And to point out, using a hyperbolic tweet, that the Sox are in strong position with Alexei.

 

Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast of which overrated rent can we unload the farm for.

 

Not your post, the post you quoted. Now come down off of your limb.

[shoeless_joe21]

That post was purely to stir people up. Nothing more.

Also, the guy's name is "Wyatt Derp." That's a pretty good hint.

[Jerksticks]

Isn't adding a wheeler a smidge too much? Have to probly give them Sanchez or Beck so count me the f*** out.

[Lillian]

No one really responded in depth to my request for some scouting information on Juan Diaz, and there seem to be some here who consider him nothing more than a "Minor League filler",

and therefore of no interest, or consequence. Nevertheless, it's still worth trying to get some better insight into what kind of player he is, so here are some quotes from various sources:

 

SS Juan Diaz (Age 24, AAA) - With legitimate prospects at the three lower full-season levels and Asdrubal Cabrera in Cleveland, it's going to be tough for Diaz to stick around in this organization long.

He's a big guy, but still a decent to good defender at shortstop. His bat has been what's holding him back, but he's always been young for his level.

 

Short Stop: This may surprise some...but Juan Diaz is my everyday SS. If you read scouting reports, everything written about this kid said that if his bat ever catches up to his glove, he's good enough

to be a major league SS. Well, he's 23 years old and he hit .306/.342/.458 in Columbus this year. He's not as good as Asdrubal offensively, but he is much better defensively.

He's not the long-term answer at short, but let's give him the season while guys like Rodriguez, Paulino, Lindor, etc. develop in the lower levels.

 

Juan Diaz, ss, Indians ..... He's a plus defender who covers the gaps in

 

Oct 2, 2014 - New Orleans' Juan Diaz (Marlins) has a plus arm he used to lead ... a two-year track record for strong performance and glowing scouting ... Scouts regard him as an above-average defender

with a good arm and plus instincts

 

Juan Diaz (SS- Akron)

.966 PCT, 127 G, 172 PO, 391 AST, 20 E, 583 TC, 83 DP

 

Diaz had a very solid year and was one of the most consistent defensive middle infielders in the Eastern League this year, and finished with the most assists and double plays in the league.

He also went up to Triple-A Columbus and took over the shortstop duties in the playoffs and was unfazed by the pressure of the playoffs or by the call up itself.

 

Phone call away: At 6-4, Juan Diaz looks more like a shooting guard than a shortstop, but he made his big-league debut last season and will open the year at Class AAA Columbus.

He hit .306 (22-for-72) in a brief look at Columbus last year and the Indians believe the right-handed hitter is improving offensively. They think he can play defense in the big leagues right now,

thanks to a strong throwing arm that helps him slow the game down.

 

That's all I was able to find.

Finally, I had posted this before, but note that vs. RHP, he hit .316 with an OBP of .338 and a SLG% of .483, in 348 at bats, last year at AAA.

Unfortunately, he was terrible vs. LHP.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Lillian

[Al Lopez's Ghost]

No one really responded in depth to my request for some scouting information on Juan Diaz, and there seem to be some here who consider him nothing more than a "Minor League filler",

and therefore of no interest, or consequence. Nevertheless, it's still worth trying to get some better insight into what kind of player he is, so here are some quotes from various sources:

 

SS Juan Diaz (Age 24, AAA) - With legitimate prospects at the three lower full-season levels and Asdrubal Cabrera in Cleveland, it's going to be tough for Diaz to stick around in this organization long.

He's a big guy, but still a decent to good defender at shortstop. His bat has been what's holding him back, but he's always been young for his level.

 

Short Stop: This may surprise some...but Juan Diaz is my everyday SS. If you read scouting reports, everything written about this kid said that if his bat ever catches up to his glove, he's good enough

to be a major league SS. Well, he's 23 years old and he hit .306/.342/.458 in Columbus this year. He's not as good as Asdrubal offensively, but he is much better defensively.

He's not the long-term answer at short, but let's give him the season while guys like Rodriguez, Paulino, Lindor, etc. develop in the lower levels.

 

Juan Diaz, ss, Indians ..... He's a plus defender who covers the gaps in

 

Oct 2, 2014 - New Orleans' Juan Diaz (Marlins) has a plus arm he used to lead ... a two-year track record for strong performance and glowing scouting ... Scouts regard him as an above-average defender

with a good arm and plus instincts

 

Juan Diaz (SS- Akron)

.966 PCT, 127 G, 172 PO, 391 AST, 20 E, 583 TC, 83 DP

 

Diaz had a very solid year and was one of the most consistent defensive middle infielders in the Eastern League this year, and finished with the most assists and double plays in the league.

He also went up to Triple-A Columbus and took over the shortstop duties in the playoffs and was unfazed by the pressure of the playoffs or by the call up itself.

 

Phone call away: At 6-4, Juan Diaz looks more like a shooting guard than a shortstop, but he made his big-league debut last season and will open the year at Class AAA Columbus.

He hit .306 (22-for-72) in a brief look at Columbus last year and the Indians believe the right-handed hitter is improving offensively. They think he can play defense in the big leagues right now,

thanks to a strong throwing arm that helps him slow the game down.

 

That's all I was able to find.

Finally, I had posted this before, but note that he it .316 with an OBP of .338 and a SLG% of .483, in 348 at bats, last year at AAA.

Unfortunately, he was terrible vs. LHP.

Great work Lillian!

 

[peavy44]

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/102...nvesting-wisely

 

Alexei going no where without dodgers giving up joc or seager

Edited November 25, 2014 by peavy44

[harfman77]

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/102...nvesting-wisely

 

Alexei going no where without dodgers giving up joc or seager

 

Ha.

[southsider2k5]

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 4h4 hours ago

 

Ventura on Ramirez trade rumors: "I don't expect Alexei to go anywhere. I expect him to be my shortstop."

[The Ginger Kid]

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/102...nvesting-wisely

 

Alexei going no where without dodgers giving up joc or seager

Heard this on the local LA sports radio yesterday, the Sox were asking for a package that included one or the other. I think it was Kevin Kennedy who seemed to imply it would be a good move. Dodgers are definitely a win now team. Seager and Pederson are not MLB ready.

[Princess Dye]

Sale and Abreu in different ways have possibly limited windows of greatness. Not super limited of course but...limited. So trading Alexei makes no sense, especially in light of LaRoche. They're going to take a brief win-now shot, without torching the farm this time, and see how it goes.

[witesoxfan]

Heard this on the local LA sports radio yesterday, the Sox were asking for a package that included one or the other. I think it was Kevin Kennedy who seemed to imply it would be a good move. Dodgers are definitely a win now team. Seager and Pederson are not MLB ready.

 

Seager isn't, but Pederson definitely needs his meddle tested in the majors at this point. If they could get Pederson, this move would have been done already.

[LDF]

Seager isn't, but Pederson definitely needs his meddle tested in the majors at this point. If they could get Pederson, this move would have been done already.

 

in this kind of a situation, the sox can't go wrong, however i think a pkg centered

around Seager would be my route. i think his upside will be great.

 

Seager and Anderson at 3B and SS, wow.

[Chisoxfn]

Seager isn't, but Pederson definitely needs his meddle tested in the majors at this point. If they could get Pederson, this move would have been done already.

I think the point is we continue to play hardball and see if the Dodgers ultimately end up biting. Hahn can continue to be out in the media talking through our plans to make big moves, etc. The reality is trading Alexei for Pederson or Seager would be a good deal for the Sox and given the Dodgers situation, you could justify the move on their end. If we move Alexei, it should be for a potential difference maker. Pederson is ready to play in the majors. Is he ready to be a star in year one, no, but you can't have that expectation out of any rookie.

[TheFutureIsNear]

I think the point is we continue to play hardball and see if the Dodgers ultimately end up biting. Hahn can continue to be out in the media talking through our plans to make big moves, etc. The reality is trading Alexei for Pederson or Seager would be a good deal for the Sox and given the Dodgers situation, you could justify the move on their end. If we move Alexei, it should be for a potential difference maker. Pederson is ready to play in the majors. Is he ready to be a star in year one, no, but you can't have that expectation out of any rookie.

 

Nope, I'd be absolutely infuriated if I was a Dodgers fan. Freidman isn't going to make that move either....just not going to happen.

[The Ginger Kid]

I think the point is we continue to play hardball and see if the Dodgers ultimately end up biting. Hahn can continue to be out in the media talking through our plans to make big moves, etc. The reality is trading Alexei for Pederson or Seager would be a good deal for the Sox and given the Dodgers situation, you could justify the move on their end. If we move Alexei, it should be for a potential difference maker. Pederson is ready to play in the majors. Is he ready to be a star in year one, no, but you can't have that expectation out of any rookie.

He did look pretty bad in his call-up

[witesoxfan]

I think the point is we continue to play hardball and see if the Dodgers ultimately end up biting. Hahn can continue to be out in the media talking through our plans to make big moves, etc. The reality is trading Alexei for Pederson or Seager would be a good deal for the Sox and given the Dodgers situation, you could justify the move on their end. If we move Alexei, it should be for a potential difference maker. Pederson is ready to play in the majors. Is he ready to be a star in year one, no, but you can't have that expectation out of any rookie.

 

I absolutely agree with all of this. It's the only way the White Sox can justify trading Alexei.

[2nd_city_saint787]

You trade Lexi because you believe Semien or Sanchez can play there...not because you just picked up some JAG on the waiver wire..

Edited November 26, 2014 by scs787

[bear_brian]

There is no way, IMO, that the Dodgers are going to trade Pederson or Seager without getting some salary relief in the form of one of the high-priced veteran outfielders, probably Ethier. So, if there is a "package", it would possibly be Etheir and Pederson or Seager.

[Buehrlesque]

There is no way, IMO, that the Dodgers are going to trade Pederson or Seager without getting some salary relief in the form of one of the high-priced veteran outfielders, probably Ethier. So, if there is a "package", it would possibly be Etheir and Pederson or Seager.

I would have been in favor of that. But too with LaRoche on board now, that ship has sailed.

[southsider2k5]

There is no way, IMO, that the Dodgers are going to trade Pederson or Seager without getting some salary relief in the form of one of the high-priced veteran outfielders, probably Ethier. So, if there is a "package", it would possibly be Etheir and Pederson or Seager.

 

Then they can keep looking for their SS. Again, the Sox are in no position where they have to deal anyone. Unless the deal is a big win for them, there is literally no good reason to deal Alexei, even from a "value" standpoint.

[Thad Bosley]

There is no way, IMO, that the Dodgers are going to trade Pederson or Seager without getting some salary relief in the form of one of the high-priced veteran outfielders, probably Ethier. So, if there is a "package", it would possibly be Etheir and Pederson or Seager.

We don't need two of the Dodgers' outfielders, or else we'd essentially be trading for their logjam in the outfield.

[bear_brian]

I agree wholeheartedly. In my mind, I think the best - and possibly only - deal for Alexei would be with the Mets, and only for Zach Wheeler. That would give us a young cost controlled RH starting pitcher, would also allow us to chase either Headley or Melky, and would allow us to add a closer, or even go after Shields. How about a rotation of Sale, Shields, Quintana, Wheeler and Danks (unless we could move him for Papelbon!)?

[flavum]

December 10- Alexei to the Dodgers. Just wait.

[southsider2k5]

And let's also not forget that the Dodgers just lost an important player on the left side of their infield with Ramirez going to Boston. It could put a little more pressure on them to bid up for Alexei.