southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) On what planet are we living on where Andy Wilkins provides value? He's a 27 year old non prospect that was absolute trash in his cup of coffee. He looked completely overwhelmed by MLB pitching. He struck out in half his 45 AB! Come on people. Funny only three months ago, people couldn't understand why Dunn hadn't been released to make room for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Phil Rogers @philgrogers 4m4 minutes ago Cuban LHP Onelki Garcia, 25, claimed on waivers by White Sox, is a mystery who essentially missed 2014 after ending '13 with a sore elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:17 PM) Why? He has come pretty good stuff, just needs a bit of refinement, but could be a high leverage reliever in the not too distant future. A team with bullpen depth issues should not be quick to discard such an asset. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:23 PM) He is a young project who throws 100. Guess I should have looked past his stats on the surface....boy do those sure look bad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not that it matters, but Garcia got placed at #19 on top 20 prospects list according to mlb.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 04:42 PM) Not that it matters, but Garcia got placed at #19 on top 20 prospects list according to mlb.com White Sox or Dodgers list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 04:45 PM) White Sox or Dodgers list? White Sox. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 11:45 PM) White Sox or Dodgers list? white sox. i wonder who got dropped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) On what planet are we living on where Andy Wilkins provides value? He's a 27 year old non prospect that was absolute trash in his cup of coffee. He looked completely overwhelmed by MLB pitching. He struck out in half his 45 AB! Come on people. He provides value in that, as the rosters are currently constructed, he is currently the #2 1B and probably the #1 DH on the team. Those will change in a matter of weeks, but he's blocking absolutely no one, and the guy hit 30 homers in the minors last year. He's also not the first guy to look overwhelmed by MLB pitching in his first call up either. He's obviously not going to have the career that Paul Konerko did, but Konerko put up a .214/.275/.326/.601 over his first 247 plate appearances before having an almost hall of fame career. Frankly, I'm going to be surprised if Wilkins is DFA'd. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded, but he's under control and he's young enough that he could still provide value as a bat off the bench. And I don't disgaree that he's probably a AAAA player - I'm pretty sure I mentioned that and that I've always believed that - but that doesn't mean you get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 11:42 PM) Not that it matters, but Garcia got placed at #19 on top 20 prospects list according to mlb.com they also made some corrections to his profile. i posted his stats on page 3 of this thread, now in the white sox page in MILB they have him with a fastball at 60. the was a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) white sox. i wonder who got dropped? Fairly certain Braulio Ortiz was #20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 First batter he faced in the majors? Diamondbacks' OF Adam Eaton. He walked, and Garcia was taken out. Then Eaton got caught stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 11:56 PM) Fairly certain Braulio Ortiz was #20. yep I just remembered when I saw the name. Ortiz is another big power arm pitcher. damn the future is looking nice.... 2016 many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) white sox. i wonder who got dropped? I doubt anyone else could tell you the answer without looking it up... The fact that we don't remember the player speaks volumes of that player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 05:28 PM) yep I just remembered when I saw the name. Ortiz is another big power arm pitcher. damn the future is looking nice.... 2016 many thanks. If Ortiz could actually find the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) How many "if he could only find his control" have we had??? I know, I know, you have to take your shots with the Cleto's of the world....in the past, it might have been Santos Rodriguez, now Olacio, etc. Edited November 21, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:51 PM) He provides value in that, as the rosters are currently constructed, he is currently the #2 1B and probably the #1 DH on the team. Those will change in a matter of weeks, but he's blocking absolutely no one, and the guy hit 30 homers in the minors last year. He's also not the first guy to look overwhelmed by MLB pitching in his first call up either. He's obviously not going to have the career that Paul Konerko did, but Konerko put up a .214/.275/.326/.601 over his first 247 plate appearances before having an almost hall of fame career. Frankly, I'm going to be surprised if Wilkins is DFA'd. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded, but he's under control and he's young enough that he could still provide value as a bat off the bench. And I don't disgaree that he's probably a AAAA player - I'm pretty sure I mentioned that and that I've always believed that - but that doesn't mean you get rid of him. He has, what, one more option left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I like the bullpen additions so far. Is Montas the closer of the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:33 AM) I like the bullpen additions so far. Is Montas the closer of the future? I think the Sox brass is still hoping for Montas to be a SP. I also think Garcia needs at least 1 yr to recover from his injury and continue to develop in the minors. in his profiles and tools, he just may be the closer of the future. that is if all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Dan's write-up of the moves on FutureSox is here. I'm kinda surprised that Saladino got protected. He's recovering from TJ and won't be ready until March or April, and doesn't really have any standout tools. I just don't see how anyone would claim him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) Dan's write-up of the moves on FutureSox is here. I'm kinda surprised that Saladino got protected. He's recovering from TJ and won't be ready until March or April, and doesn't really have any standout tools. I just don't see how anyone would claim him. You'd actually be able to stash him on a DL for a while and get a free preview while he recovers from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) He has, what, one more option left? Pretty sure he has at least 2. It's hard to find info on options, but as I recall, he wasn't added to the 40-man until Dunn was shipped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I don't understand the rules. This guy was drafted in 2012 and pitched one inning in the majors. He's not waiver-protected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 05:37 PM) I don't understand the rules. This guy was drafted in 2012 and pitched one inning in the majors. He's not waiver-protected? He was on the Dodgers 40-man roster. Because he was injured all year long, and the Dodgers wanted to free up an opening on their 40-man for a prospect (their reasons are their own), they felt they may be able to sneak Onelki Garcia through the waiver wire in able to outright him to AAA (thus, removing him from their roster but keeping him in the organization). They were unsuccessful. This has nothing to do with service time and everything to do with the Dodgers being sneaky or misjudging the market and the White Sox capitalizing and retaining the rights to a guy who has a pretty live arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 11:49 PM) He was on the Dodgers 40-man roster. Because he was injured all year long, and the Dodgers wanted to free up an opening on their 40-man for a prospect (their reasons are their own), they felt they may be able to sneak Onelki Garcia through the waiver wire in able to outright him to AAA (thus, removing him from their roster but keeping him in the organization). They were unsuccessful. This has nothing to do with service time and everything to do with the Dodgers being sneaky or misjudging the market and the White Sox capitalizing and retaining the rights to a guy who has a pretty live arm. more than likely a GM name Hahn who is watching the waiver wire intensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) more than likely a GM name Hahn who is watching the waiver wire intensely. Theo/Hoyer. They claim pretty much anything and everything that has a shred of talent, but they're also currently in a roster crunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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