Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Sources: #Rays have made Matt Joyce available on trade market and have had some talks with other clubs. He is comparable to Jay Bruce. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Matt Joyce career OPS+: 118. Jay Bruce career OPS+: 111 . . . Bruce is about 2 years and 8 months younger. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Sabermetric context of Joyce/Bruce comp, h/t @TheFantasyFix: Joyce has higher WAR than Bruce over last 3 years. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...ayers=9892,3353 … Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago To be clear, not necessarily arguing for one player over the other. Bruce has hit more HR. But there is a legitimate discussion to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Sources: #Rays have made Matt Joyce available on trade market and have had some talks with other clubs. He is comparable to Jay Bruce. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Matt Joyce career OPS+: 118. Jay Bruce career OPS+: 111 . . . Bruce is about 2 years and 8 months younger. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago Sabermetric context of Joyce/Bruce comp, h/t @TheFantasyFix: Joyce has higher WAR than Bruce over last 3 years. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...ayers=9892,3353 … Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 1h 1 hour ago To be clear, not necessarily arguing for one player over the other. Bruce has hit more HR. But there is a legitimate discussion to be had. i don't know about everyone else, but for 2 yrs of control, at what price to get him...... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Is it December 8th yet? Wake me up then please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Meh. Meh. Meh. Meh meh meh meh, meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 03:23 PM) Is it December 8th yet? Wake me up then please. I hear ya. I'm interested to see what happens on December 2 with non-tenders, but pitchers and catchers don't report for three months. Plenty o' time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) I hear ya. I'm interested to see what happens on December 2 with non-tenders, but pitchers and catchers don't report for three months. Plenty o' time. Oh, the agony. I'm off to continue my studies of the Oklahoma Song Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) OPS in the mid 700s and dropping each of the last 3 years. He'll be 30 next year. Am I supposed to believe that's worth a top prospect? Heck, go get Carl Crawford. He delivers the same; he's only 32 (seems like he's 40, he's been around so long). We could get him and a couple of good prospects for Alexei. Work a 3 way to get Saunders out of Seattle; he's pretty good and could improve. On the WAR comparisons, I note that both he and Bruce are both dreadful defensively. this is more boom/bust, pay for past performance, get likely less in future performance, again. Edited November 21, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:23 PM) Is it December 8th yet? Wake me up then please. is that St Nicks day???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I actually think this could be a great fit for the rotating DH/OF model. But no, he's not worth a top prospect. Did Morosi say he'd cost a top prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) I actually think this could be a great fit for the rotating DH/OF model. But no, he's not worth a top prospect. Did Morosi say he'd cost a top prospect? I believe there wasn't any mention of any cost what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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