Jose Abreu Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) LHRP LH DH LH OF RHSP RP RP I think these are the remaining moves we make, possibly a few more cheap ones. The OF doesn't necessarily need to be left handed anymore. That could make him easier to find. (Another infielder or a catcher are also possible but unlikely moves at this point, unless they come via a Ramirez trade.) Edited November 22, 2014 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) LHRP LH DH LH OF RHSP RP RP I think these are the remaining moves we make, possibly a few more cheap ones. The OF doesn't necessarily need to be left handed anymore. That could make him easier to find. (Another infielder or a catcher are also possible but unlikely moves at this point, unless they come via a Ramirez trade.) I agree with the needs. Although I think we only need one more reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) I'd rather have LaRoche than Butler, especially on a 2 year deal. LaRoche actually walked quite a bit last year and he would have been a 2 WAR player had he played 150-160 games. Edited November 22, 2014 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 08:41 PM) Getting LaRoche, no way you get rid of Alexei now unless an insane deal comes across Hahn's table. Why not? It's not like Alexei is elite. He's at peak value and other teams seem to really want him. Sox can improve the club and organization by trading him. An all D shortstop would be satisfactory if we can get a quality YOUNG outfielder for him and not touch our prospects. I'd do Van Slyke and a couple of quality prospects in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:06 PM) I agree with the needs. Although I think we only need one more reliever. It's possible. The following pitchers could potentially be/will be relievers in the near future: Chris Bassitt Scott Carroll Zach Duke Onelki Garcia Javy Guerra Nate Jones Jake Petricka Zach Putnam Andre Rienzo Erik Surkamp Daniel Webb Scott Snodgress I don't know how I'd feel with the best of those, say Opening Day- Duke, Petricka, Putnam, Surkamp, Guerra, and Webb, plus a FA as my relievers. The bullpen cost us many games last year, and I'd feel more comfortable with multiple, cheap, "see if it sticks on a wall" type of reliever signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 1. Eaton CF 2. Ramirez SS 3. Gillaspie 3B 4. Abreu 1B 5. LaRoche DH 6. Garcia LF 7. Viciedo/FA Signing RF 8. Semien 2B 9. Flowers C Already better than last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) 1. Eaton CF 2. Ramirez SS 3. Gillaspie 3B 4. Abreu 1B 5. LaRoche DH 6. Garcia LF 7. Viciedo/FA Signing RF 8. Semien 2B 9. Flowers C Already better than last year Much of that is thanks to the fact that Dunn and Beckham are absent from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:21 PM) He should be good for ~25/~80 with an OPS around .800. That's something no other player besides Abreu could do in the last two years. Supposedly was a big part of the clubhouse in Washington and he handled Zimmerman taking his spot amicably. What's kinda funny is that I wanted him on the Sox 4 years ago when we were looking for our Thome replacement. Then we signed Dunn and the Nationals signed LaRoche. They got way more out of LaRoche than we got out of Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Super.. LaRoche suffers from ADHD that was diagnosed during his high school years, which occasionally leads to on field blunders such as in a game against the Washington Nationals in 2006.[19] LaRoche is a devout Christian who has helped the Washington Nationals promote "Faith Day" at Nationals Park along with teammates Denard Span and Ian Desmond.[20] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) The Dodgers still want Alexei, and also want to move an outfielder, preferably one with a big salary. Now that the Sox have a middle of the order, left handed bat, Ethier is not the ideal return for Alexei. If the Sox could instead obtain Kemp, the offense could become very potent. SS could be filled by the best defensive option available, with little concern for offensive production. I personally wouldn't even mind Rondon. He is the best defensive SS in the organization, and arguably the best in the Minor Leagues. Defense translates very well to higher levels of competition. Bat him 9TH, and don't worry about what he contributes with his bat. Anderson is still at least a year or two away. He needs to polish his defense, and is therefore not yet a viable option. Vizquel broke in very young, and with no offensive skills, but he played brilliant defense, right at the outset, and eventually became a solid contributor, at the plate. A lineup that included Eaton, Abreu, LaRoche, Kemp, Gillaspie and Avi could afford a hole, at the bottom of the order. Edited November 22, 2014 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Good stuff in this article about the type of teammate LaRoche is http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/natio...6985_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) C.Rondon in 2015? Just wow. It didn't work to carry Brian Anderson in 2006 when we had one of the best offenses in the league...andRondon wouldn't come close to Anderson's numbers offensively. Leury Garcia would make fewer errors than Rondon and nobody wants to see him on the roster even. Edited November 22, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Anybody else think its still interesting that the Sox have yet to announce this official? I figured if you have a deal with a player agreed upon and are up against the 40 man that you think that ahead of time. You think Hahn just taking his time or is another move on the horizon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) 1. Eaton CF 2. Ramirez SS 3. Gillaspie 3B 4. Abreu 1B 5. LaRoche DH 6. Garcia LF 7. Viciedo/FA Signing RF 8. Semien 2B 9. Flowers C Already better than last year I absolutely hate Gillaspie in the 3 hole. If we acquire a much better hitter to fill that spot then I will feel much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:40 PM) Good stuff in this article about the type of teammate LaRoche is http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/natio...6985_story.html That was awesome to read. He fills the veteran leadership void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Anybody else think its still interesting that the Sox have yet to announce this official? I figured if you have a deal with a player agreed upon and are up against the 40 man that you think that ahead of time. You think Hahn just taking his time or is another move on the horizon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread, but LaRoche has generally been a very slow starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:43 PM) I absolutely hate Gillaspie in the 3 hole. If we acquire a much better hitter to fill that spot then I will feel much better. I'm sure Abreu and Laroche will be the 3-4 with the players we currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 This f***ing sucks. But it's very White Sox. Cabrera is the obvious choice, but we decide to play it cheap and waste $25 million in the process. This is why we're an also ran franchise for most of our history. This is a complete waste of money for a DH who will be lucky to slug .430 next season. Very KW. Very KW. Who am I kidding? This will never f***ing change until JR passes on to the next plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:41 PM) C.Rondon in 2015? Just wow. It didn't work to carry Brian Anderson in 2006 when we had one of the best offenses in the league...andRondon wouldn't come close to Anderson's numbers offensively. Leury Garcia would make fewer errors than Rondon and nobody wants to see him on the roster even. I knew that some of you would find that idea outrageous, but if Rondon is as good a SS, as the scouts say he is, I don't think it would really matter how little he hit. I do find it surprising that you think L. Garcia would play better SS. OK, then let him be the offensive void at the bottom of the order. My point is simply that I don't think a potent lineup, such as what I'm proposing, would need offense from the 9TH spot. Here's my projected lineup: 1. Eaton CF 2. Gillaspie/Semien 3B 3. Abreu 1B 4. LaRoche/platoon ? 5. Kemp OF 6. Garcia OF 7. Flowers C 8. M. Johnson/Sanchez/Semien 9. ??? SS (Best Defender available) Trade Viciedo, perhaps for a bullpen arm. Sign a RH starting pitcher. Edited November 22, 2014 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) I'm sure Abreu and Laroche will be the 3-4 with the players we currently have. I would guess: CF Eaton SS Ramirez 1B Abreu DH LaRoche RF Garcia 3B Gillespie LF ??? C Flowers 2B M. Johnson/Semien Still think they end up with a FA LF like Melky or Aoki. Which really helps this lineup: CF Eaton LF Melky/Aoki 1B Abreu DH LaRoche RF Garcia SS Ramirez 3B Gillespie C Flowers 2B M. Johnson/Semien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:46 PM) This f***ing sucks. But it's very White Sox. Cabrera is the obvious choice, but we decide to play it cheap and waste $25 million in the process. This is why we're an also ran franchise for most of our history. This is a complete waste of money for a DH who will be lucky to slug .430 next season. Very KW. Very KW. Who am I kidding? This will never f***ing change until JR passes on to the next plane. Are you upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 08:13 PM) 1. Eaton CF 2. Ramirez SS 3. Gillaspie 3B 4. Abreu 1B 5. LaRoche DH 6. Garcia LF 7. Viciedo/FA Signing RF 8. Semien 2B 9. Flowers C Already better than last year I want to bump up the 4-7 hitters, and get my two best OBP guys in front of Abreu, dropping Lexi to 7. 1. Eaton CF 2. Gillaspie, Semien 3B 3. Abreu 1B 4. LaRoche DH, Viciedo/other, preferably as platoon 5. Garcia OF 6. Melky/other OF 7. Ramirez SS 8. M. Johnson/Sanchez/Semien all have chance to win starting 2B in ST as we stand today, imo. 9. Flowers C Yeah, something like that could win, with the right pitching staff, and hopefully some defensive improvement in a few areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:35 PM) Now that the Sox have a middle of the order, left handed bat, Ethier is not the ideal return for Alexei. There is zero chance they would trade Alexei for Ethier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:44 PM) Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread, but LaRoche has generally been a very slow starter Well he can spend April in Charlotte then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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