BlackSox13 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Eek. Just read Victorino had ham string issues and back surgery. I'm not so sure his value equals that of Danks. I think Boston would have to chip in a bit more. Here's a recent article... http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...der-for-red-sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 09:07 PM) Eek. Just read Victorino had ham string issues and back surgery. I'm not so sure his value equals that of Danks. I think Boston would have to chip in a bit more. Here's a recent article... http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...der-for-red-sox everytime i read about a ballplayer having back surgery, i am leery of there rtn to full health. back surgery is a beachhhhh. but with ref to Victorino, i am no medical person to gage it. still going back to the previous talk, and this as far from reality as me winning the lotto, Danks for Victorino is a good gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think Melky will be our first move at the Winter Meetings. Then we trade Viciedo for some bullpen help and then trade for a right handed starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:45 PM) I think Melky will be our first move at the Winter Meetings. Then we trade Viciedo for some bullpen help and then trade for a right handed starter. I continue to think no one in their right mind would give up bullpen help for Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) I continue to think no one in their right mind would give up bullpen help for Viciedo. I didn't say good bullpen help. But maybe some bust prospects that have good stuff or something along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 i still say a comp pick with money or an int'l pick with the money allotted to it. that will be an idea trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:57 PM) I didn't say good bullpen help. But maybe some bust prospects that have good stuff or something along those lines. QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) i still say a comp pick with money or an int'l pick with the money allotted to it. that will be an idea trade. I would not give up either of those for Viciedo. Not unless the "busted prospect" was also being paid $4 million after inexplicably being offered arbitration when he should not have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:13 PM) I would not give up either of those for Viciedo. Not unless the "busted prospect" was also being paid $4 million after inexplicably being offered arbitration when he should not have been. pls clarify are you saying that it is too much to give up or not enuf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) pls clarify are you saying that it is too much to give up or not enuf? I mean I think of Viciedo as completely worthless. If I were an opposing GM I would not give up anything for him unless it removed a salary I didn't want on my roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) I mean I think of Viciedo as completely worthless. If I were an opposing GM I would not give up anything for him unless it removed a salary I didn't want on my roster. Well yea, you are a jaded white sox fan. Of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:43 AM) I mean I think of Viciedo as completely worthless. If I were an opposing GM I would not give up anything for him unless it removed a salary I didn't want on my roster. yeah i thought so and to tell you the truth, i am thinking the same. i was always writing about how he hit 20 hrs and that in itself is something, which it is. but on this team next yr, he needs to do more. then again i am extremely bias against him.. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 i was reading mlb rumors and they had an article of the 2 ace pitchers in this yr FA. well they are guessing that Lester's camp is wanting a 7 yr contract. with that, i am officially getting of that sinking ship. now, who is that team wanting to get rid of their #1 pitcher?? Marlins. anybody knows of him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Would be strange for the White Sox to give up prospects for a guy who wants 110 million + on a new deal. Would the Sox really move 2 of their better prospects for a 1 year rental assuming he wants to become a free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (spiderman @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) Would be strange for the White Sox to give up prospects for a guy who wants 110 million + on a new deal. Would the Sox really move 2 of their better prospects for a 1 year rental assuming he wants to become a free agent? also depends on the package being offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:28 AM) i was reading mlb rumors and they had an article of the 2 ace pitchers in this yr FA. well they are guessing that Lester's camp is wanting a 7 yr contract. with that, i am officially getting of that sinking ship. now, who is that team wanting to get rid of their #1 pitcher?? Marlins. anybody knows of him?? Marlins number 1? They want to trade an injured Fernandez? Dude is under control 5 more years, tj or not. they'll get a haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) Marlins number 1? They want to trade an injured Fernandez? Dude is under control 5 more years, tj or not. they'll get a haul. you are right, i hate the sox trading with the marlins, the marlins always seems to get the best from the sox. then again it may be my imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 1m1 minute ago Other teams say the Padres have gotten more aggressive in marketing catcher Yasmani Grandal in trade discussions. Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 10:18 AM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 1m1 minute ago Other teams say the Padres have gotten more aggressive in marketing catcher Yasmani Grandal in trade discussions. Yes please. Keith law Grandal does a few things well but receiving isn't one of them. Pitchers preferred throwing to Rene Rivera. https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/539455241268514816 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) you are right, i hate the sox trading with the marlins, the marlins always seems to get the best from the sox. then again it may be my imagination. I honestly cannot remember the last time the Sox had a trade with the Marlins. At least not one significant enough for me to think that the Sox lost the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) Keith law Grandal does a few things well but receiving isn't one of them. Pitchers preferred throwing to Rene Rivera. https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/539455241268514816 So wait, why do we want a catcher who isn't all that good at catching? Our DH spot isn't very open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) I honestly cannot remember the last time the Sox had a trade with the Marlins. At least not one significant enough for me to think that the Sox lost the deal We traded them Ozzie Guillen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) We traded them Ozzie Guillen... I honestly cannot remember the last time the Sox had a trade with the Marlins. At least not one significant enough for me to think that the Sox lost the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 10:39 AM) I honestly cannot remember the last time the Sox had a trade with the Marlins. At least not one significant enough for me to think that the Sox lost the deal greg just blocked you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/tra...franch_ID_2=FLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 1, 2014 -> 10:41 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/tra...franch_ID_2=FLA They took Billy Koch. That right there makes every trade for the rest of my life a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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