LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:05 AM) Predicting some sort of buy-low option in the rotation. Sort of like the Paulino deal except with a guy who has actually had success (Morrow, Medlen, Beachy, etc.) there are some nice players who are available. with that, i think the sox brass will have a better idea of them and what the needs of the team are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 08:05 PM) Predicting some sort of buy-low option in the rotation. Sort of like the Paulino deal except with a guy who has actually had success (Morrow, Medlen, Beachy, etc.) Morrow would be an excellent signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A series of deals that in the end will be basically meaningless as teams shuffle their never weres and never will bes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) Morrow would be an excellent signing. there is really some interesting names out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 02:00 AM) What's the fascination with Reddick? it all up to you like Vin Diesel as an actor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sooo slow for Sox news right now, monday can't come soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 09:52 PM) Sooo slow for Sox news right now, monday can't come soon enough I want Monday to be Minoso's day, but after that, I want all hell to break loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 11:58 PM) To futhur illustrate my point about more talent in the position players , the Sox hitters had a cumulative 15.5 WAR. Our top players were: Abreu 5.5 Eaton 5.2 Alexei 3.0 Flowers 2.3 Gillaspie 1.5 Beckham 0.6 Semien 0.5 Sierra 0.5 Others below 0.5 but still in positive territoy were Dunn, DeAza and Phegley. The Sox had 8 players either mostly in bench roles or injured for most of the season (Garcia) who either didn't provide enough hitting to offset their bad fielding or enough good fielding to offset their bad hitting or were bad at both. You'll also notice 4 players in postive WAR are no longer with the team (Beckham, DeAza, Dunn and Sierra ). Melky Cabrera had a 3.1 ,Brock Holt a 2.1, Michael Saunders 2.4 playing half a season . Rasmus had a 0.9 despite a bad season of hitting but enough defense to somewhat overcome it. I hold out hope that Avi Garcia has a positive WAR in him when he becomes the hitter he should be and improves enough defensively. Adam LaRoche had a 2.2 which will be hard to duplicate being another year older past his prime and mostly DH'ing but it's a start towards adding more talent to the roster. I'd feel much more comfortable with the Sox having a 20 WAR amongst the position players which means better defense and better offense. The Tigers, Royals and Giants all had 20.2- 20.5. A 4 WAR guy who plays good D and hits well would be wonderful but a 3.0 would still be a huge boost to this lineup. Melky has ranged from 3.1 to 4.7 in 3 of the last 4 years. Saunders best was his 2.4 in his limited playing time last year but is entering his prime. Rasmus had a 4.6 as recently as 2013 and generaly has ranged from 1.5 -3.6 in 4 other years is also entering his prime but we are aware of his problems. The Sox were outscored by 100 runs last year and only have a "Big Two" in Sale and Quintana. A serious contender needs a "Big 3" at the very least. Rodon could be that player but chances are it won't be 2015. Another quality SP and closer will have the biggest influence on wether the Sox contend in 2015. Right now the next move(s) need to be high quality pitching. I win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Gordon Beckham to back up Johnson at 2nd and Conor at 3b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Gordon Beckham to back up Johnson at 2nd and Conor at 3b This guy thinks so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzfest Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 kemp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 You know who would be great right now with Semien gone, Emilio Bonifacio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Gordon Beckham to back up Johnson at 2nd and Conor at 3b Hey I said that already in another thread Greg commented right after telling me that ship had sailed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If kemp or Melky is the next move I'll go crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckweaver Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Ichiro for 1 year w/club option for year 2 to do a straight R/L platoon w/Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 getting JS and the maybe getting a comp pick, if he doesn't resign. this got me thinking last nite as i went to bed. why not and how much would it cost for cincy to trade Johnny Cueto - sp. prob way too much for me. oh well. Pit watch and Danks up next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (buckweaver @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) Ichiro for 1 year w/club option for year 2 to do a straight R/L platoon w/Viciedo. if DV is still with the team maybe. however i think Ichiro can handle a 350-400 AB's. i am a fan and i like him as a low salary filler. but didn't someone said that the next sox move will be a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The White Sox do not have time for your so-called "rebuilding process." Their Monday night acquisition of starting pitcher Jeff Samardzija via trade and signing of closer David Robertson continues Chicago's acceleration back into contender range, probably to the point that they're comfortably a .500 team (assuming a healthy rotation), while addressing the two biggest needs from the 2014 roster. www.espn.com Keith Law Insider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Does Danks plus Anderson land Kemp? Salary swap plus a legit prospect? Would you do it if you were Hahn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Real @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:51 AM) Does Danks plus Anderson land Kemp? Salary swap plus a legit prospect? Would you do it if you were Hahn? Absolutely not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Real @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 06:51 AM) Does Danks plus Anderson land Kemp? Salary swap plus a legit prospect? Would you do it if you were Hahn? Right now Kemp is unwantable. We don't have to give up actual good players to get him. It's just a matter of whether we can stomach his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:29 PM) The White Sox do not have time for your so-called "rebuilding process." Their Monday night acquisition of starting pitcher Jeff Samardzija via trade and signing of closer David Robertson continues Chicago's acceleration back into contender range, probably to the point that they're comfortably a .500 team (assuming a healthy rotation), while addressing the two biggest needs from the 2014 roster. www.espn.com Keith Law Insider ahh for crying out load. 500???? the sox only improve in 2 positions??? what is Zack, and Adam signing??? for me, this is still a rebuilding, a quasi rebuilding. maybe Hahn has the same idea of rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 07:48 AM) ahh for crying out load. 500???? the sox only improve in 2 positions??? what is Zack, and Adam signing??? for me, this is still a rebuilding, a quasi rebuilding. maybe Hahn has the same idea of rebuilding. Yeah, I think they're barely a .500 team. They need a whole lot of people in their lineup to get better to be any better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/poll...to-contend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Many speculated that Semien would platoon with Gillaspie at 3RD. With him gone, who could provide really good defense, at the hot corner, vs. LHP? That would be one of the minor moves that should now be on Hahn's shopping list. Unless they still plan on spending substantially more money, maybe they could get by with Shuck in LF. He is a good OBP guy, who might be able to fill the #2 hole. He hits both RH and LH pitching about equally. He doesn't strike out, and has been reportedly working harder on bunting. Eaton has good on base skills, but isn't really a big stolen base threat. If Shuck could move Eaton into scoring position with bunts and the hit and run, and get on base himself, at the pace he did with the Astros in 2011, or the Angels in 2013, the Sox might not need to sign another free agent, to fill the void in LF. If the Sox still want to spend more money, I would opt for more pitching. You just can't have too much of it. They still don't have a lot of depth in that department. You have to love the top of the rotation, and when Rodon is added it will be as solid, 1 through 4, as anyone's, but it gets a little thin after that. Noesi and Danks are decent bottom of the rotation guys, but they really don't have anyone in the organization who appears ready to step in, if someone should get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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