Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) I'm still all for adding him for piss cheap if we don't grab some significant bench players I'd rather give Saladino a shot than signing Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) Never thought I would see the day where Beckham would be an ideal bench guy on this team. He can play 2b and SS and hits lefties well 3B more than SS. I know the Angels played him at 3rd. Not sure he played any SS but he could do it. I just looked up Gordons career splits as a 3rd baseman. Not too shabby . 460 AB's 15 HR's .349 OBP .461 Slg. .273 BA. I'd take that kind of line from Conor this year in a heartbeat. Edited December 14, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Wow really? How does Beckham playing at 2B possibly have that much effect on his hitting? It's also irrelevant because he was a much better hitter earlier in his career, when he was playing 3B, but not so much recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 12:10 PM) Wow really? How does Beckham playing at 2B possibly have that much effect on his hitting? It's also irrelevant because he was a much better hitter earlier in his career, when he was playing 3B, but not so much recently. I think you answered your own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 If you want to find some cutesy way to look at splits so be it, but Beckham's struggle at the plate wasn't impacted by the position he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 10:10 AM) Wow really? How does Beckham playing at 2B possibly have that much effect on his hitting? It's also irrelevant because he was a much better hitter earlier in his career, when he was playing 3B, but not so much recently. Even last year albeit in a very small sample size (28 AB's) he did this .321 BA .367 OBP .464 SLG. .831 OPS at 3rd base. Just saying he wouldn't be the worst choice ever for backup INF. The Sox always pretty much kept him at 2nd trying to let him develop . But now that expectations have been lowered considerably, they could use him all over the INF. I still think the majority of casual Sox fans really like him. He's FA right ,so wouldn't have to deal with paying for his arbitration years either. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Edited December 14, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Yes. I saw that. That's 28 at bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 10:57 AM) There has been very little talked about the catcher they picked up from Marlins. What happens to Nieto, after spending a full year with the major league team they send him down to minors? Does he have to clear waivers? Nieto should have options remaining and therefore should be able to be sent down without clearing waivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 10:24 AM) Yes. I saw that. That's 28 at bats. It's better than a line of .150 .250. 350. .450 . Beside 2nd base is now the Sox biggest area of concern in the lineup. Doesn't hurt to have more competition to push the youngsters to play their best. Sanchez is really sucking in the winter league after his winter league play last year propelled him into a good season in the minors which led to his call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Nieto should have options remaining and therefore should be able to be sent down without clearing waivers He has all three option years remaining. He was never on anybody's 40 man roster until the Sox picked him in last winter's Rule V draft and he stayed on the Sox all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) It's better than a line of .150 .250. 350. .450 . Beside 2nd base is now the Sox biggest area of concern in the lineup. Doesn't hurt to have more competition to push the youngsters to play their best. Sanchez is really sucking in the winter league after his winter league play last year propelled him into a good season in the minors which led to his call up. I don't mind bring Beckham back as a reserve at all, but if we are starting him over Gillaspie for whatever reason, I think that's bad news for us. To the pro-Saladino crowd, I like him as much as the next guy and I was hoping he gets called up last September before he got hurt. But if we are penciling in a guy who's coming off TJS and never played in the majors before as our primary backup infielder, we are digging a big hole for ourselves. Edited December 14, 2014 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:00 PM) To the pro-Saladino crowd, I like him as much as the next guy and I was hoping he gets called up last September before he got hurt. But if we are penciling in a guy who's coming off TJS and never played in the majors before as our primary backup infielder, we are digging a big hole for ourselves. "Primary backup infielder" wouldn't be a problem role for Saladino, even if he hit poorly, defense and flexibility would be tolerable. The problem is that we still have those couple guys with major platoon splits - LaRoche and Gillaspie, where you'd want the guy on the bench to be more than a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 11:53 AM) He has all three option years remaining. He was never on anybody's 40 man roster until the Sox picked him in last winter's Rule V draft and he stayed on the Sox all season. I'm thinking he's still the best choice for backup C as we sit here today, so the options may not matter a whole lot. Of course, that could change. Let's hope he's taken a step forward. A more experienced backup might be a "finishing touch" type of move for this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I'm thinking he's still the best choice for backup C as we sit here today, so the options may not matter a whole lot. Of course, that could change. Let's hope he's taken a step forward. A more experienced backup might be a "finishing touch" type of move for this offseason. If the Sox view Nieto as a potential starting catcher down the road, then he needs to be starting 100+ games in the minors instead of being a backup for Flowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:08 PM) "Primary backup infielder" wouldn't be a problem role for Saladino, even if he hit poorly, defense and flexibility would be tolerable. The problem is that we still have those couple guys with major platoon splits - LaRoche and Gillaspie, where you'd want the guy on the bench to be more than a backup. How does TJS Impact his ability to not only play, but to learn 3B? He's only played a total of 3 games there in the minors. In that role, he'd be asked to play there against most LH SP's. The bigger elephant in the room is he most likely won't be ready by ST. Edited December 14, 2014 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It was on his non throwing elbow right? Is recovery same as a pitcher? How many batters have had this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It's his throwing arm. I've read that recovery should be a bit quicker than for pitchers. But since he's not used to making throws from 3B in the past, I'd would assume it would impact him to some extent. Ptact can provide a better answer for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 10m10 minutes ago Hawk Harrelson with some bold predictions. And says #WhiteSox aren't done making moves. http://bit.ly/1yR3lVi ” Hawk hinting at a couple more moves? Interesting lol. I'm thinking Castro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 10m10 minutes ago Hawk Harrelson with some bold predictions. And says #WhiteSox aren't done making moves. http://bit.ly/1yR3lVi ” Hawk hinting at a couple more moves? Interesting lol. I'm thinking Castro. Hawk does not need Viagra at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Viciedo for Buster Posey it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 10m10 minutes ago Hawk Harrelson with some bold predictions. And says #WhiteSox aren't done making moves. http://bit.ly/1yR3lVi ” Hawk hinting at a couple more moves? Interesting lol. I'm thinking Castro. If Hawk's this excited, it must mean Beckham's coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 10m10 minutes ago Hawk Harrelson with some bold predictions. And says #WhiteSox aren't done making moves. http://bit.ly/1yR3lVi ” Hawk hinting at a couple more moves? Interesting lol. I'm thinking Castro. There's also that corresponding roster move that Bucket hinted at last night. Edited December 14, 2014 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) If Hawk's this excited, it must mean Beckham's coming back. I hope it's Odell Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 There's also that corresponding roster move that Rock hinted at last night. That was bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 03:31 PM) There's also that corresponding roster move that Rock hinted at last night. But that has to be Viciedo. Any additional moves would be for depth or the bench IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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