Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The White Sox are interested in Masterson. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/...-central-radar/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This is one that made a lot of sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Perfect addition to go along with Melky or a LF via trade. Add another couple arms to the pen and that's is a team I'd go to war with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Absolutely. Masterson, Hochevar, Santos, some other flier types and a LF. Would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) I know his velocity dropped a lot last year but if he's healthy this just makes too much sense. Edited November 28, 2014 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hope this is true, if he has a good first half with the Sox he could be traded for some good prospects. The move makes a lot if sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Any idea what Masterson is going to cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 09:58 PM) Any idea what Masterson is going to cost? I'm going to guess 7-10 mil for 1 year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:02 PM) I'm going to guess 7-10 mil for 1 year. OK thanks. For that money I'd rather spend a few more bucks for Volquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:02 PM) I'm going to guess 7-10 mil for 1 year. That seems excessive for a career below average pitcher, but gotta take chances somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:14 PM) That seems excessive for a career below average pitcher, but gotta take chances somewhere What doesn't in this marketplace? Plus he's going to be motivated on a short-term deal, he fits the KW groundball profile and he already knows the Central. Edited November 28, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Makes sense as one of the cheaper free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:02 AM) I'm going to guess 7-10 mil for 1 year. what i think is he hopes for a bidding war with several interested team. i thought his range would be 5-8 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:59 PM) what i think is he hopes for a bidding war with several interested team. i thought his range would be 5-8 mil. On just a one year deal, $8-10 million or $7-7.5 million and incentives is probably where he'll end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This is a 2-pitch pitcher who lost 3 mph on his main pitch last year, all while pitching like s***. There are a bunch of pitchers I'd like to try before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) This is a 2-pitch pitcher who lost 3 mph on his main pitch last year, all while pitching like s***. There are a bunch of pitchers I'd like to try before him. Preach it brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:14 PM) That seems excessive for a career below average pitcher, but gotta take chances somewhere He had 2 really solid years, a handful of average years, and 1 really bad year. The dip in velocity certainly is concerning though. 3 MPH is a big drop off which means he either is hurt, or he changed his mechanics and lost speed, and maybe it's something he can change back to. It would be much easier to hate him if he had been losing 0.5-1.0 MPH each season for the past few years. The sudden big drop is confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I'd much rather have McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 06:47 AM) I'd much rather have McCarthy. I'm guessing McCarthy ends up getting a deal around 3/$39M, while Masterston gets something like 2/$20M. At those prices, I'll take Masterson in a heartbeat due to durability, age, and being a better fit for our ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 12:26 AM) He had 2 really solid years, a handful of average years, and 1 really bad year. The dip in velocity certainly is concerning though. 3 MPH is a big drop off which means he either is hurt, or he changed his mechanics and lost speed, and maybe it's something he can change back to. It would be much easier to hate him if he had been losing 0.5-1.0 MPH each season for the past few years. The sudden big drop is confusing. It was a mechanics caused by injury thing: From Paul Hoyne , Northeast Ohio Media Group. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________ In September of 2013, with the Indians driving toward a wild-card appearance, Masterson strained his left oblique muscle. He came back at the end of September and pitched out of the bullpen. In spring training this year Masterson's ribcage area was still tender, but he never told the Indians. He was the opening day starter, leader of the staff and trying to get a contract extension. Randy Rowley, Masterson's agent, said the injury caused a change in his mechanics, which led to soreness in his right knee. Masterson didn't talk to the media about his sore knee until late June. When he did, he said he'd been dealing with it since his second start of the season. In September, after the trade to St. Louis, Masterson had an MRI on his right shoulder and it showed an impingement. The Cardinals gave him a cortisone shot. Rowley said Masterson is finally healthy. If he is and he can pitch back to his 2014 form, the team that signs him will get a 30-year-old proven starter who until last season had pitched 180 or more innings in four straight seasons. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________ I am usually suspicious of injury stories after the fact because , much like a lawyer, an agent trys to limit the perceived damage and spin it in a way that puts his client in a better light. "It was just a series of bad decisions guys based on how much I care about you all. It had nothing to do with I was headed towards free agency and had turned down a 3/$45M offer and was seeking $17M per year." Naive and team oriented is a lot better than greedy. All that being said, he might be the ideal candidate for a 1 year contract to re-establish value and re-enter free agency But he will not likely come cheap with so many teams inquiring on him. Expect somewhere around $10M for him. Edited December 8, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlSoxfan Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I like him for a couple reasons.1 he's willing to sign a 1 yr. contract an 2. He's got good upside if he really is healthy. Risky..yes but everyone seems to have risks. I think there are a number of teams interested so he may not come to cheap. I'm thinking somewhere around 9, 10 mil. In any case I'd give him a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (AlSoxfan @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 03:37 PM) I like him for a couple reasons.1 he's willing to sign a 1 yr. contract an 2. He's got good upside if he really is healthy. Risky..yes but everyone seems to have risks. I think there are a number of teams interested so he may not come to cheap. I'm thinking somewhere around 9, 10 mil. In any case I'd give him a try. he has no choice in the matter. he needs to sign for 1 yr to reestablish his value. expect a bidding war with several teams driving the salary up. as you said teams may be interested. pass. too many what if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 12:55 AM) Preach it brother. He is very overrated. I think people are enamored with him because he kills the Sox. If it's a one-year deal for $5 million, maybe it's a risk worth taking since he he basically is 50/50 on whether you will get a good season from him or not. But I think any serious money thrown at him is wasteful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 If he had the velocity he used to have, I would be all about this. Losing the 4MPH off his fastball, he just looks like BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 08:24 AM) It was a mechanics caused by injury thing: From Paul Hoyne , Northeast Ohio Media Broup. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________ In September of 2013, with the Indians driving toward a wild-card appearance, Masterson strained his left oblique muscle. He came back at the end of September and pitched out of the bullpen. In spring training this year Masterson's ribcage area was still tender, but he never told the Indians. He was the opening day starter, leader of the staff and trying to get a contract extension. Randy Rowley, Masterson's agent, said the injury caused a change in his mechanics, which led to soreness in his right knee. Masterson didn't talk to the media about his sore knee until late June. When he did, he said he'd been dealing with it since his second start of the season. In September, after the trade to St. Louis, Masterson had an MRI on his right shoulder and it showed an impingement. The Cardinals gave him a cortisone shot. Rowley said Masterson is finally healthy. If he is and he can pitch back to his 2014 form, the team that signs him will get a 30-year-old proven starter who until last season had pitched 180 or more innings in four straight seasons. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________ I am usually suspicious of injury stories after the fact because . Much like a lawyer, an agent trys to limit the perceived damage and spin it in a way that puts his client in a better light. "It was just a series of bad decisions guys based on how much I care about you all. It had nothing to do with I was headed towards free agency and had turned down a 3/$45M offer and was seeking $17M per year." Naive and team oriented is a lot better than greedy. All that being said, he might be the ideal candidate for a 1 year contract to re-establish value and re-enter free agency But he will not likely come cheap with so many teams inquiring on him. Expect somewhere around $10M for him. This just bolsters why I'm not interested. Better options are available. Now if Masterson was willing to work out of the pen for a reasonable price I could see it but I'd guess some team will take a chance on him as a starter. Thanks for posting this Cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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